Ep. 200 "Investment Banking" (Diary Entry 1:2 with Bailey Jene Moran)

[00:00:00] Am I recording now? Oh look, cool, I am. Let's see. Still new to audition, folks.

[00:00:09] Hello, good day diary listeners. Happy Tuesday. This is going to be an awesome interview.

[00:00:17] It's with Bailey Jean Moran of Karma Body Modifications. She is a first-year tattoo artist,

[00:01:24] Mary Ann of Karma Body Modifications in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Hello, Bailey.

[00:01:25] Hello.

[00:01:26] Thanks for coming on.

[00:01:29] This is actually, I always do confessions.

[00:01:32] So this is our second time recording.

[00:01:34] Yes, it is.

[00:01:36] Because the first time my audio sucks.

[00:01:39] And we felt like it would be a better showcase

[00:01:42] if we kind of reinvested in this whole venture.

[00:01:46] Yeah, I figured if people was turning 24. I was, I can't wait to get my SpongeBob cake next year

[00:03:02] or this coming year for the,

[00:03:04] what's better than 24, 25. someone else and then they ended up not able to come. So all my expenses were paid for already. So luckily I got to do that. That is awesome. I mean, not so great for them, but not enough. Well, that's what I was like, I really, really appreciate this. And they were like, we know, you've said it seven times.

[00:04:20] Yeah, yeah.

[00:04:21] Well, I know, well, and it was really cool for us

[00:04:25] because we really enjoyed meeting you.

[00:04:26] Rico loved meeting you. that huge bug that he shot with me. He's like, there's no point in shooting anything smaller than that after that. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what his ex maybe it was just maybe that's it. We just have to, you know, I think people don't realize that like how ethical it is that a lot of times that, you know, the hunters are out there and they're not going to shoot anything unless, you know,

[00:05:41] they really see something that's worth that and that has've just been giving it to people as a present. Oh, that's so cool. I mean, you're earning your stay there in spades, man. That's awesome. Yeah. Ah, that's awesome. Please don't fire me. Here's a dear sausage. I think they're good. I think they're good. They're good. Keep you up. So let's get into it.

[00:07:00] I'm we wanted to re-record your sound and a lot better this

[00:07:03] time. We're not breaking up for nothing.

[00:07:05] So what?

[00:08:02] Okay, well, I think it's time to change careers. And I end up picking up and moving my whole life around just to be there.

[00:08:06] Yeah.

[00:08:07] Me and my husband had lived in Sepulpa for like three years.

[00:08:14] And we talked to my brother and we were like, hey, he's on the road being a semi truck driver.

[00:08:21] Do you mind if we like rent out a room so that we can, you know, save money to do this?

[00:08:26] And he was like, well, that helps me with my mortgage. like maybe a handful of my former hair clients. She knows just different vibe, you know. Yeah, not everyone's for it. And I just will lightly believe people until they come in. Right on, right on. So I guess, you know, what happened

[00:09:43] as you were trying to get a tattoo apprenticeship?

[00:09:46] Like how did that look?

[00:10:42] then he was like, well, you weren't annoying about it. And what do you think about apprenticeship?

[00:10:44] And I was like, I mean, that could be awesome.

[00:10:47] But on the inside, I was like, ee, ee, like,

[00:10:50] oh my God, it's happening.

[00:10:52] So I was like, yeah, that sounds cool.

[00:10:56] Like roll my eyes a little bit for Tins

[00:10:58] that I'm not overly excited.

[00:11:00] But then he was like, how about you come hang around?

[00:11:03] But his hours closed whenever we closed. more to it and I have a better respect for that now I think. Oh yeah and do you how many artists did you have to do front end work for at the time? What do you mean? Like did you I mean I'm sure it's like greet and everything like that I'm sure everybody manages their own schedules but like

[00:12:22] how many artists were you like the face of that's about it or, you know, that you might be able to share? So for the piercing part, it was,

[00:13:41] I didn't realize there was gauges

[00:13:43] for certain parts of your bodies. And I mean, if people don't come in, we're not making money like at all. So it's not like being on a payroll kind of thing, you know? And it was mostly, dude, like you were able to just walk in here. We're accommodating you. How much did you pay for that bottle of water that you got in the garage for? Did you ever question why that was 250? That bottle of water, that's water. Yeah, yeah, that's, engineer it, to run it, to all these different things. Plus, there's every person as a new person. So that's a whole nuance thing. You learn a lot. You learn a lot. Front end. I think it also shocked me because the gatekeeping of a lot of knowledge, it really doesn't get

[00:17:46] out there. funny because wouldn't it be hilarious to you for someone to be like you absolutely cannot have any boundaries with me because you'll get fired like you still are allowed to have boundaries. No one can tell you you're not. Yes, yes. Oh, really? Yeah. So like that surprised me too. Hearing other people's crazy stories or whatever like and like we talked in the last video of course

[00:19:04] you're gonna bump heads with your mentor. You're not gonna want to hear some things. by the people and I didn't realize this when I started because I was like, why don't they then when they teach this like in schools and my mentor at the time he was like, no, you don't want that. If you have that, then what happens is, is certain levels of bureaucracies and regulation get involved and he's like, they get so ominous that they'll have these

[00:20:21] really restrictive forces where every room has to have its you haven't done, you get a fine until you do it. And it becomes crazy. So, and I don't think people realize that when if you don't gatekeep with that an like a little cartridge and just go like this. Like just the bobbin on the back and just see if I can stick and poke it. If that's what we're going to do, let's see how fast it takes me to do it or how slowly.

[00:23:03] But no, totally.

[00:23:04] I I agree with you.

[00:23:05] And so it's a very delicate balance of those things. like growing up my mom, she was like, if you go into some place that you are wanting a service from, look around, pay attention and see exactly what you want from these people. She cracks me up, she's like, every time I go into someone's house, I don't mean to do it, but I immediately look at their braceboards.

[00:24:20] And if they're disgusting, I will not eat their food.

[00:24:23] Yeah, no, totally.

[00:24:25] There's that, there's my mom looks at mirrors after you get comfortable for a while too, you tend to, you slip back a little bit, which is normal human behavior, but even in the beginning too, like if you're just learning something like, oh yeah, I did tattoo my friend on my couch, but I wouldn't do that now, you know? No. And it was a product of a lot less information,

[00:25:43] like we didn't have YouTube videos.

[00:25:46] I didn't even know than when I was. It was, it was nuts dude. And I can see I was a little bit of a hoodrapped myself growing up, but I was like, I remember my mom going, if you come home with some ugly ass butterfly

[00:28:20] that looks like a kindergarten or did it,

[00:28:22] I'm going to beat you.

[00:28:23] Yeah, so I don't know.

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:26] Yeah. Yeah, she is. I mean, she's awesome. My mom's awesome. I call her every day on the way to work and every day when I really work. And yeah, she, she just one of those ladies that's like amazing, but I would not cross her. She's crazy. I mean, my mom's the same way too. I don't keep in contact, but we've gotten

[00:29:40] a better relationship now that I'm not such a little shit.

[00:29:44] I was, I had that that is prudent and that's a good mom. That's a really good mom. That's very cool. Well, we loved you as soon as we met you. So, I would imagine the woman who helped raise you as an awesome person, very stunning lady. I have a carbon copy. Oh, that's awesome.

[00:31:00] I love it.

[00:31:01] I love it.

[00:31:02] Have you tattooed her yet?

[00:31:04] I did.

[00:31:04] I tattooed a son on her, but she was like my first person that I tattooed.

[00:32:04] She would be with the icicle and I would be done. I hate the gold.

[00:32:05] Seriously.

[00:32:06] Seriously.

[00:32:07] Oh, that's so awesome.

[00:32:09] So how do you feel like you learn best?

[00:32:14] Like, where did you just observe a lot and ask a lot of questions?

[00:32:18] Like, how did it really look?

[00:32:19] Your apprenticeship?

[00:32:21] I, so my apprenticeship, I started with, you know people who are tattooing in the shop and see how they do theirs. It's been a little bit of everything. Well, I know that Rick is very on point with sterilization and sanitation and making sure

[00:33:40] that the setups are really, really good at your studio. Red Foreman to me. He is. He does that, but very sweet. He's like a really kind heart. And that is, that is very red Foreman. He, yes. Yeah. He cares, but he calls me a jackass like seven times a day. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I love that correlation. That's perfect.

[00:35:01] Yeah.

[00:35:03] Before you started tattooing, what

[00:35:05] was some of the exercises that. And I was like, well, I mean, okay, yeah, I'll do stuff. But like, I hadn't really, my dad is like one of my heaviest influencers on how I wanted to be an artist growing up, because he can like paint beautiful scenery and stuff.

[00:36:20] And I used to just stare at his like first prize ribbon hanging up at my Poppy Scott's

[00:36:25] house, his dad's house.

[00:36:27] And I would be like, all right. And then after that, it became where he was like, go get watercolor and try it out. So I did that for a while and I was horrible because I'd never done that medium before. And he was like, you'll get it with time. And then he showed me the website Dick Blick. I don't know if you ever go on there.

[00:37:42] Yeah.

[00:37:42] So we went on there and like a watercolor is great because you really can't. I mean, you can track it back a little bit unlike acrylic ink and things like that. But for the most part, once you put it down, you can't undo it. So I think that's why they usually same way with watercolor. Like you can kind of have a direction that you're going for, but really the skin's gonna decide what you're doing and you're just gonna have to work with it. Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's a lot like that. And I think that as far as I was just gonna say,

[00:40:23] when I get there, if you guys wanted to do any watercolor,

[00:40:26] that's like the thing I love.

[00:40:27] But I'm like slap see them in April. So yeah, we have a, it was so funny because Rick wrote down when you're supposed to come and we were expecting like a tack or a piece of tape where he'd put it on the wall. He stapled it to the wall. Oh, I got a staple. You go staple. I was like, Rick, do you want to?

[00:41:42] And he was like, maybe she needs just a little bit more practice and like, I always laugh and joke and describe to him as other people, like to other people as Mr. Miyagi. He just doesn't tell you what's going through his head.

[00:43:00] He just kind of does things.

[00:43:01] And sometimes you'll ask questions and it's like you're keeping your body in shape and like all these things that he can give you these insights that maybe he wish he would have had earlier or pay attention to.

[00:44:20] Yeah, he says that all the time.

[00:44:22] He's like, I wish I had a me whenever I first started doing say when I did jiu-jitsu, mostly, and it was very core centered, a lot of stuff on the floor, which I have to get back to, but that was like the best thing in the world. So if you find a lot of tattoo artists that are like coupling that with jiu-jitsu, that's probably why because it's so,

[00:45:42] it helps so much with that core strength.

[00:45:46] And it's going to be okay. Like you're hurting them on purpose. They know that it's on purpose. They're going to be fine. Some people like it. Yeah. Well, and like I've had to have like less empathy because it's almost crippling. Trying to after a while when they're like sitting there and like

[00:47:02] when seeing and like, uh, and I'm like listening to it.

[00:47:06] And then I start to get that the name. But I'm like, what was the tattoo? Like, can you show me the tattoo? Because I looked at the tattoo more So I had years between the first time and the last time. And so when I got back into it again, this guy wanted like a palm size butterfly on his inner bicep. That thing Bailey took me like six hours. It was dumb.

[00:49:40] It was so long.

[00:49:42] It took me.

[00:49:43] My mentor kept coming and he'd be like, Jesus Christ, are you guys still doing this?

[00:49:47] What the hell? Yes. Oh my God. You know, like, third level is like moving to an area that you haven't tattooed before. Like, there's just different levels of like wanting to just shit yourself in. Oh, yes. All right, listeners, that wraps up part one with Bailey. Please be sure to come back next week.

[00:51:00] She has some really good words of wisdom.

[00:51:04] As young as she is, that is something that struck me and Rico about Bailey is that she can speak for her whole studio that attended the event. It's just, it's a fantastic event. It draws the best people and that's clear as you've heard. She's a wonderful starting artist and she comes from a good stock of talent and passion.

[00:52:20] So definitely come back next week because you'll get to hear more about Bailey.

[00:52:26] Thanks, dire listeners.

[00:52:27] Have a powerful week.