Ep. 211 "OK Roadtrip" (All about your Host's time in Oklahoma)

[00:00:06] Hello Diary listeners

[00:00:10] That's a very yummy pickle that I was having

[00:00:15] pardon

[00:00:16] But it kind of feeds into a little bit. I

[00:00:22] Just thought about this as I got a midday snack

[00:00:27] Here on Tuesday welcome. Hello. God bless all that

[00:00:32] We're calling this week's diary entry

[00:00:36] Oklahoma or okay road trip and

[00:00:40] I don't know if y'all are aware, but I've been away for the past two weeks in Oklahoma

[00:00:47] and the reason my pickles are kind of a

[00:00:50] part of all of this is that I had the fortune of

[00:00:54] Learning how to play pickleball from my dad

[00:00:58] Who was my traveling companion?

[00:01:02] Welcome to the apprenticeship diaries where raw meats were fine. Let's be real. We're still working on

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[00:01:15] so this week I'm going to attempt to tell you

[00:01:30] About my trip and hopefully I don't leave out anything pertinent, but you know

[00:01:36] I'm sure some of it you had to be there to

[00:01:38] Do

[00:01:39] You know to get the beauty of but I think it was a pretty cool time. I

[00:01:44] Think I first want to start out by saying that

[00:01:48] I'm kind of I'm kind of mad at myself that I

[00:01:53] I

[00:01:56] Was kind of irritated that my dad was wanting to come along

[00:02:02] Mostly because I kind of had it in my mind that I was going to do this trip solo

[00:02:09] There's a good friend of the podcast and she's actually has a dire entry Nicole Dorae and

[00:02:16] Nicole

[00:02:17] did a solo road trip

[00:02:20] for a long time and it was

[00:02:22] very very aggressive and its timelines and

[00:02:26] And she did it and and I kind of like I like the idea of it

[00:02:32] um

[00:02:34] Rico had said that he wasn't gonna want to do it and

[00:02:39] I of course, that's not holding me back. I don't want to go so

[00:02:45] When we went to Paradise this last year

[00:02:49] I met I met the people at karma body modifications and I had known Renee at Goldfang Gallery

[00:02:58] I'd heard good things about Goldfang Gallery too from Nicole Dorae who also stopped there in her tour across America and

[00:03:07] I don't know. It just seemed really fun to me and I

[00:03:12] Was pretty determined to go by myself like I said Rico isn't really keen on long road trips. He's a big human

[00:03:20] It's not really a thing even though I think he would have enjoyed himself and it wouldn't have been that bad

[00:03:26] But you know he didn't want to go and he was again very like oh you should

[00:03:32] You should maybe fly or you shouldn't go by yourself and a big thing that everybody was like well

[00:03:38] You should get your you should get your carry license

[00:03:41] So as I've already done a podcast about I I took my Marilyn Carey and my Utah Carey

[00:03:50] classes so that I could

[00:03:52] apply for my permit

[00:03:54] while I was gone my Utah came so that didn't that didn't come in time for me to

[00:04:02] You know Carey and

[00:04:04] My Marilyn one still hasn't hasn't come around though. I hope I will be

[00:04:09] Permitted soon and be able to get my HQL and all of that good stuff

[00:04:14] but I wasn't able to attain any of those things in time and

[00:04:19] When my parents learned that I was going by myself they were

[00:04:23] Not too thrilled my mom really didn't want me to go by myself

[00:04:28] She's I mean this has been as old as time with me and my my my family

[00:04:34] very protective

[00:04:36] you know as

[00:04:39] As anybody could hope

[00:04:41] Their family to be and it's just it's a matter of seeing it in the right perspective. I always saw it as

[00:04:50] controlling and

[00:04:51] Just really

[00:04:53] Minimizing the the time that I would have

[00:04:58] My my mom has always been someone that's like well when you go to this person's house, you know

[00:05:04] Make sure that you call me when you get there. You call me when you're leaving

[00:05:08] You know like it was just like I had to check in all the time and it

[00:05:15] you know I

[00:05:18] Kind of resented it because for me it was always like dude like

[00:05:23] What like I kind of took it personally because like why don't you

[00:05:28] Why don't you trust me? Why don't you trust these other people that I'm going to see?

[00:05:35] You know if if you have the information to

[00:05:39] Contact this person that I'm going to see

[00:05:42] You know if something goes wrong then you can you can call and figure it out, but you know, I'm not a parent

[00:05:48] I was a kid at that point and I you know, I I guess the resentment is

[00:05:54] Understandable and I had no idea how to see it

[00:05:58] later on in life now though I

[00:06:02] Do see it as caring and kind and

[00:06:07] Just you know loving me

[00:06:10] Beyond reason and wanting to make sure that you know everything's okay

[00:06:14] not to mention

[00:06:16] You know what I when I?

[00:06:18] pulled back away from you know my own selfish

[00:06:23] once I

[00:06:26] Thought to myself, you know

[00:06:28] none of us are getting any younger and

[00:06:31] Again, there's there's lots of people that I know that don't have

[00:06:35] The benefit of their parents anymore

[00:06:38] Let alone, you know like they're missing a parent, you know not missing but like their parent has passed away and

[00:06:46] Or they they've lost both so

[00:06:49] It was something where I was like come on now. You've

[00:06:53] Always enjoyed your father, you know just

[00:06:57] You know embrace this

[00:06:59] You know anything can happen at any point

[00:07:02] Not only on this trip, but after you know

[00:07:05] This is gonna be an ability to make a memory and to do something really cool and

[00:07:12] Also, you know, there's there's some

[00:07:16] There's been a want of me ever since COVID to

[00:07:21] Stay close to home. I don't I mean I do know what that's about I

[00:07:27] I

[00:07:29] Realized how blessed I am in the family that I have

[00:07:33] And I was shown how much my pain my my family was there for me

[00:07:40] When I needed them to be and just how wonderful and glorious that was and

[00:07:46] There's just this huge

[00:07:48] Calling for me to stay close

[00:07:52] To lean into my family and

[00:07:55] I really

[00:07:59] Feel like that's the case and actually

[00:08:02] Just the other day I was already back, but I heard about this

[00:08:08] Movie that's coming out unsung hero

[00:08:10] That's all about basically what I'm talking about. I want to go see it now, but one of my

[00:08:17] Podcasts listens that is regular as the Michael Noel show and he was interviewing

[00:08:22] The creators of the film and

[00:08:25] It was about their family and about what had happened to their family and so it's a

[00:08:32] Telling of this story and and basically it was

[00:08:38] You know, like your family isn't getting in the way your family is the way is a big thing

[00:08:44] and it kind of chronicles the

[00:08:48] The quote the mother Teresa has that it's you know

[00:08:51] Don't if you're trying to change the world. I'm gonna butcher this. I'm sure but you're trying to change the world

[00:08:59] go home and

[00:09:01] raise your family and

[00:09:04] Do a good job raising your family and

[00:09:08] You know, it's taken me a long time to mature folks

[00:09:12] I mean, I hope if you've been listening to this for any kind of time that you understand that

[00:09:19] This is a this is a diary of

[00:09:23] Learning and growing and it's not only me personally, but the people that I've interviewed and it's a moving it's a moving thing and

[00:09:34] So

[00:09:36] That's what's been kind of on my heart lately and it has been ever since 2020

[00:09:41] just to stay with my family and to be

[00:09:46] more

[00:09:48] involved with them and you know, I

[00:09:53] Been growing spiritually and then also wanting to combine things with my family

[00:09:58] I've also, you know in truth as much as I love tattooing and I don't think I'll ever stop it. I think I'll just

[00:10:07] It's gonna be more isolated and it's gonna be

[00:10:12] Very special

[00:10:14] Whatever I transform it into now it has to be because

[00:10:20] You know, I've been doing it for 16 years and I

[00:10:26] Feel the need to

[00:10:29] Really ground myself and what that is it's become very sacred for me

[00:10:32] And it's something that I very much so want to

[00:10:38] Do but do in a way that not only

[00:10:42] It's beyond service. It's like I said sacred and I don't really know where it's moving next

[00:10:48] I don't really know what it's all gonna amount to

[00:10:54] But there's a there's a thing in me that wants to diversify, you know, this podcast is an expression of that

[00:11:03] My want to learn how to do calligraphy better, which you know, I've kind of dropped but I've started again

[00:11:09] I'm really excited about starting that again

[00:11:12] I want to do a series on the book of Revelation. I think that would be metal and awesome and

[00:11:21] very cool and a way to

[00:11:23] Glorify God with my talent that would be amazing

[00:11:28] But as you guys have seen too, there's a wanting me to carve wood and to be in a wood shop

[00:11:33] so my dad has a lot of woodworking equipment and

[00:11:38] You know, we've been discussing what next steps are for the building that I actually have my studio in

[00:11:46] and

[00:11:47] It seems like it might be coming together where my dad and I are

[00:11:52] Kind of in the same. It's kind of weird because he's gonna be 70 this year

[00:11:57] I'm gonna be 43

[00:11:59] But we're kind of in the same like

[00:12:02] Mind-frame business wise where we we kind of want to continue doing what we're doing with the very small clients

[00:12:08] How that we have maybe a few extra people here and there but nothing extravagant just keep active in that way as much as we can

[00:12:16] but we'd really like to

[00:12:19] Do something with wood and

[00:12:22] That's pretty cool

[00:12:23] So it gave me

[00:12:25] To put a pin in that for a second

[00:12:27] It gave me the opportunity to discuss all these things with my dad up and and along with that

[00:12:32] Many other things many other philosophies are long drive. It was I'd say if you rounded it about 18 hours

[00:12:40] Both ways, you know like going and back

[00:12:44] give or take so

[00:12:46] It gave us, you know, two full days of driving to discuss things

[00:12:52] My dad is really

[00:12:55] great to work with because

[00:12:58] He's a great teacher

[00:13:00] He has a diary entry on here

[00:13:03] That illustrates him being my first mentor in a lot of ways he

[00:13:09] He taught me a lot about what I know about hair, but also everything. I know how to ride a bike

[00:13:15] How to shoot a gun?

[00:13:17] Sorry, that was my my phone. I should silence it forgive me listeners

[00:13:23] Again

[00:13:24] Sorry about that. I have put my phone in silent mode and it will not do that anymore

[00:13:29] It's my blink camera

[00:13:32] Service every time the wind blows it seems like that the camera catches something

[00:13:39] but

[00:13:41] Yeah, I

[00:13:43] I've always really learned

[00:13:46] well from my father he's

[00:13:50] Just very calm

[00:13:53] Very good at explaining things breaking things down. It's pretty awesome and

[00:14:01] Yeah, so we traveled I went to Goldfang Gallery first

[00:14:08] We I managed to get an Airbnb that was super close

[00:14:14] To the studio it's it's in an apartment complex that was like

[00:14:19] I'd say like two blocks away, so I could have walked there. I didn't I drove every day, but I

[00:14:25] Could have very easily walked there the Airbnb that I was at was at the

[00:14:30] What were they called?

[00:14:32] It was in the arts artistic district. It was very cool. They were called the I think aviar

[00:14:41] apartments I

[00:14:43] Could be wrong, but they were really good

[00:14:46] and my host Ben

[00:14:48] Was awesome

[00:14:50] the

[00:14:52] The entire stay was great. We had a little each place that we stayed at had a little bit of an

[00:14:58] issue but it's like if

[00:15:00] You know, if you've ever rented a place or run a business or anything like that which

[00:15:06] Airbnb rentals are

[00:15:08] They're both they're renting a place and a business for somebody, you know stuff happens and you just I

[00:15:15] I

[00:15:17] You know we my family we rent a property and we understand how things happen. I think it was last year my parents had to redo I

[00:15:26] Think it was the entire like well, they had to get a whole other well

[00:15:31] redrilled

[00:15:32] So I mean that was like ginormous and like the entire

[00:15:37] The entire property was dug up. It was crazy, but

[00:15:41] You know stuff like that

[00:15:43] So we had little hiccups in both places but nothing nothing to write home about

[00:15:49] And I I wanted to point that out not not to highlight the things that happen, but to encourage

[00:15:57] All of you that if you are

[00:16:00] traveling to a place and you're using somebody else's rental property

[00:16:08] Communicate with them. That's kind of the beauty of Airbnb and those kind of things

[00:16:13] you have a direct person that you can

[00:16:15] talk with and

[00:16:17] In my experience, they are very accommodating and they tackle issues very quickly

[00:16:24] in both cases

[00:16:27] everybody was super lovely and worked with us and

[00:16:31] We were able to manage despite the

[00:16:34] You know the hiccups that happened within the properties. So what I can tell anybody is that if you're traveling

[00:16:41] You want to make sure that you don't burn bridges where you go and that you keep in mind that we're all trying to do stuff here

[00:16:50] And we're all trying to live and live together and it's best to

[00:16:54] Be kind within those things and be considerate

[00:16:58] Don't

[00:16:59] don't

[00:17:00] seek to end people's careers just over things that

[00:17:04] That just happen

[00:17:06] It's not wise

[00:17:08] I've been on Airbnb now for seven years. I've traveled many times and stayed in Airbnb's and

[00:17:15] You know keep in mind they can review you just as much as you can review them. So

[00:17:22] that's kind of I think a cool feature of Airbnb is that

[00:17:28] you know

[00:17:30] everybody

[00:17:34] Everybody is held accountable and

[00:17:38] You know, I think that I hope that isn't coming through

[00:17:43] That sound

[00:17:45] It's just I

[00:17:48] Can't win for losing folks. I there's text messaging dingy in the background. I

[00:17:54] That's the other thing. Everybody and their mother has hit me up

[00:17:59] since I've been away

[00:18:01] Since you know like I've gotten and it's it's all over the place. It's not just been for tattoos

[00:18:07] It's been for everything. I've had several cancellations. I have had

[00:18:13] An offer to work at a studio

[00:18:17] Which I'm exploring

[00:18:19] I've had somebody asking me to do faux painting in their bedroom

[00:18:25] What else I had

[00:18:28] It's just it's endless I had I had to handle financial stuff

[00:18:34] along the way

[00:18:38] Like putting my all my retirement money in one place

[00:18:41] So I had to move stuff around like there's just been a handful of crap

[00:18:46] Going on in the background of even just this trip. So

[00:18:50] Please understand it's not

[00:18:53] You know, it's it's not easy to do any of these things but it is worth it

[00:18:59] if ever you think that you are not

[00:19:03] Capable of traveling as a tattoo artist. I'm here to tell you are if I can do it, you can do it

[00:19:11] I I don't like I don't like planning many things and

[00:19:17] What the hell is like oh

[00:19:23] this I

[00:19:25] Don't even know if you guys can hear this or not, but it's a it's a phone call that's coming through

[00:19:30] Sorry about those listeners. It's a phone phone call. That's apparently coming through

[00:19:35] my computer and

[00:19:37] It was a scam likely but I could hear it

[00:19:41] Hey back on track. So like everybody everybody has been hitting me up. It's been nuts and

[00:19:48] I

[00:19:50] just

[00:19:52] It's just it's just one thing on top of another

[00:19:56] I guess to go back a little bit, but our air bnb's were great

[00:20:03] Golfing gallery was stunning. I hope to share some of the pictures that I took there

[00:20:09] The crew is amazing. I can't say enough great things

[00:20:15] The setup for guest artists is

[00:20:19] beautiful Renee does such a great job Renee little of

[00:20:23] creating a space just in general but also a

[00:20:27] A guest artist space. It's lovely. She also

[00:20:32] You know does a lot to provide equipment for you to

[00:20:38] Try out that's more eco-friendly

[00:20:41] Just the whole thing is wonderful. Her staff is just so cool

[00:20:49] Her staff is top notch

[00:20:52] all of them Chase

[00:20:54] Corey both of you were just

[00:20:59] It's super awesome to meet and to talk with and to

[00:21:04] Work with every single person that tattoos there. I'm just blown away by the talent and

[00:21:11] How fun you all are and how kind you all are

[00:21:14] It was really great

[00:21:16] My roommate to my room Jacob was great meeting a man. It was nice to share a space with you

[00:21:24] Just everything was wonderful. I ended up having a walk-in

[00:21:28] come and

[00:21:30] get tattooed by me. She had me put a

[00:21:34] Magnolia flower next to a rose

[00:21:37] that Renee had done so that was such an honor to be right next to Renee

[00:21:44] and to grow

[00:21:46] a garden that that you know had had a purpose and many flowers that will be added on but it was so nice to

[00:21:53] get that as a

[00:21:55] As a walk-in so that was super super super super super super awesome

[00:22:03] You know her name was

[00:22:06] Alex, you know Alex I really appreciate you know you let me work on your girl and

[00:22:12] To be next to Renee's work is just super amazing

[00:22:17] And then there was a flash day which I love how they organized that

[00:22:22] I have to admit I haven't been a part of many flash days

[00:22:26] But that was super refreshing Corey's partner

[00:22:30] Let me Caleb let me tattoo him

[00:22:34] I

[00:22:36] Got to meet this really awesome jewelry maker and I tattooed a little

[00:22:43] I

[00:22:44] Don't know what you call them but like a bone dude from Super Mario. It's just his face and

[00:22:51] He was he was such a sweet sweet person

[00:22:55] you know, I really had a great time with both of them and

[00:22:59] Doing such simple tattoos that are honestly very challenging within their simplicity

[00:23:04] That was really cool to diversify my talent that way

[00:23:08] My scheduled client Jessica who came and she was having me fill in some spaces in between

[00:23:15] Really beautiful design work on her arm this black and gray design work

[00:23:19] And I just felt honored to add to those those spaces

[00:23:24] We actually didn't end up doing the initial flower that we thought

[00:23:29] We will be I want to go back to Oklahoma City and

[00:23:34] work on her further, but you know

[00:23:38] For four hours is four and a half hours four hours. I forget which one it was we worked

[00:23:44] but that's a lot of time folks and it's um

[00:23:49] You know

[00:23:50] It's not really

[00:23:53] It's not really easy to get through

[00:23:56] she did really well and

[00:23:58] But four hours about time that I'm like, I'm good

[00:24:01] I got tattooed today and I am I have enough to heal and I don't want to do anymore

[00:24:07] so

[00:24:08] Jessica we put

[00:24:10] some beautiful

[00:24:12] Primrose on her because as I was driving to Oklahoma, I was seeing all these beautiful like pink flowers on the ground

[00:24:19] I was like, I wonder what that is. It's primrose. They they

[00:24:24] They grow wild in Oklahoma, but they were growing all the way up to Oklahoma, Tennessee

[00:24:31] Alabama all of them was it out? No, not Alabama Arkansas

[00:24:36] Tennessee, Arkansas, you know, Oklahoma, they were all on the road and it was so pretty like

[00:24:42] I highly recommend a road trip, you know at the end of April

[00:24:47] mid-April I guess beginning of May and just the the flowers are stunning. They're just stunning. I

[00:24:54] will say Oklahoma's a little a little scary as far as the weather is concerned because there was a couple times that

[00:25:04] The tornado

[00:25:06] Bells or sirens were going off apparently every Saturday in Oklahoma City at noon they test the

[00:25:16] The sirens and it's a different it's a different sound if there actually is a tornado coming

[00:25:23] So that was interesting to learn too, but every

[00:25:26] Every Saturday at noon they test they test the sirens

[00:25:30] We didn't have any tornadoes actually in Oklahoma City though

[00:25:34] When my dad tried to play pickleball because that was his mission to play pickleball wherever he could

[00:25:40] Which I thought was awesome, you know, I think it's awesome that my dad's so active

[00:25:45] If you see when you see the pictures of my father, you'd never guessed that he was 70. He's incredible

[00:25:51] When we played pickleball together, he kind of like wiped the floor with me. He's always he's always been

[00:25:57] amazingly athletic

[00:26:00] You know, he he doesn't see it that way because he's always competed with

[00:26:05] I think people who are elite in their in their class, but

[00:26:10] He's always put himself in a line with that and stayed just so active. So in his later years

[00:26:16] He's he's just incredible. He's he's really really fit and I

[00:26:21] Mean I can't say enough about it, but

[00:26:24] And what he found is when he would try to go to some free courts outside at parks

[00:26:31] It's so windy in Oklahoma and it's like the song, you know

[00:26:35] You it's so windy

[00:26:36] You can't play things like pickleball because you have this wiffle ball and it just takes the ball

[00:26:41] So, you know, he he was like I'm gonna have to find a place inside

[00:26:46] so

[00:26:48] One of the things and probably the only things that I can speak of as far as entertainment in

[00:26:55] Oklahoma that I got to experience that I definitely recommend is

[00:27:01] Chicken and pickle or chicken and pickles, which is a whole facility

[00:27:09] It's got everything. It's got pickleball and it's got food. It's got a bar

[00:27:13] It's got this outdoor like play area where of course you can play pickleball, but they also have like large wooden versions of like

[00:27:25] Battleship and Jenga and like

[00:27:30] Checkers there was it was just a playful area and it was super cool and

[00:27:35] Super inexpensive too. Like if you want to experience pickleball

[00:27:39] It was it was great because it was only like I think five bucks to get to rent a paddle and

[00:27:47] Get a ball and then you can take the ball with you. So now we have a pickleball

[00:27:51] that's kind of like our souvenir from from Oklahoma City and chicken and pickle and

[00:27:58] Open play is like in the morning. I think until I think it was like until 10 and

[00:28:04] you can

[00:28:06] they they just have a rotation of people and

[00:28:09] There's some really elite people playing pickleball there, man. Like

[00:28:14] The games got really really intense and really really cool. These people are really good

[00:28:19] So I watched a lot of it

[00:28:21] My dad's explaining to me the game and then we reserved a court on

[00:28:27] Sunday, which was my my free day when I wasn't working and I got a chance to play and then we would be played with this couple

[00:28:36] Hope I can remember their names. I can't

[00:28:39] it was

[00:28:41] Heath I remember is the man's name and then

[00:28:46] Shoot his wife was so cute and her and I were on the same like level we were we were pretty bad

[00:28:52] and they had reserved the court after us and

[00:28:56] They let us let us play with them and my dad really instructed all of us at that point

[00:29:02] Which was really cool because he was able to

[00:29:04] You know teach everybody and we were able to actually have you know a four

[00:29:09] Four-person full court game

[00:29:11] so it's really fun and

[00:29:14] The hardest part is keeping score

[00:29:17] But um, it's it's not that hard once you get going and and it's it's pretty fun

[00:29:23] So I highly recommend pickleball if you don't consider yourself athletic

[00:29:28] We're talented in that way. I

[00:29:31] Would say you should try pickleball because

[00:29:34] It's it's it's something that all people can do to some level, you know

[00:29:39] So definitely and try pickleball. I'd say in Oklahoma City. That's a gem. It wasn't that far outside of the city proper

[00:29:48] Super fun. We also ate at a couple really great places

[00:29:54] Oh

[00:29:55] Man Renee took us out. There's just all kinds of food around that's really good

[00:30:02] Let's see. Let's see

[00:30:04] Lots of food we bought boots at both Cavenders and the boot barn my mom wanted a pair of

[00:30:12] Cowboy boots and that inspired me to get some too

[00:30:16] So I'm actually wearing right now my I got two pairs

[00:30:20] I got an actual like cowboy boots and then I got these like workbook work boots that have tread on them

[00:30:25] And that's the one thing that I I didn't like about the boots that I had already that were from fry

[00:30:33] They're very slick. They don't grab and so I've aided a couple times

[00:30:39] And especially on guest spots or traveling to other man, I fell really hard when I was in

[00:30:46] When I was in Portland when we were kind of walking around and stuff

[00:30:51] We were in a city and man, I just it was raining and

[00:30:55] Slick and I just fell on my ass. I also went hiking in them. I didn't realize we were gonna go hiking

[00:31:04] I mean it was low-key hiking, but it was like muddy and I and I fell again

[00:31:10] It was one thing after another but whatever, you know the mud

[00:31:16] Mudd

[00:31:17] Comes off and

[00:31:19] Bruises go away. I didn't I didn't really get must up too much

[00:31:23] But there's their slick, you know the bottom of boots like cowboy boots and stuff like that

[00:31:28] They're they're very slick and they don't have much grab to them

[00:31:31] So they're great for dancing and it kind of inspires me to want to check out some line dancing and

[00:31:38] You know see that scene out because now I got my boots

[00:31:42] New boot goofing

[00:31:44] What else what else

[00:31:46] I

[00:31:47] I met Dave

[00:31:50] I forget his last name, but apparently it's not

[00:31:53] It's a it sounds more ethnic

[00:31:57] Then then he looks but he was a character. He he's a big fan of Jesus and

[00:32:05] And he also loves skateboarding and just just such a character

[00:32:10] He was opposite me where I was staying and you know where I was working in Goldfang his booth

[00:32:15] And I got to see him receive from London another artist this really cool old Bible

[00:32:23] I mean it was kind of envious about

[00:32:25] This Bible he got to he got to have that London gave him and London was

[00:32:31] covering up

[00:32:33] like a small cross on

[00:32:35] his temple

[00:32:37] That on Dave's temple that he was replacing it with three three nails which has the same

[00:32:46] Concentrations it and it really honestly it fit better

[00:32:50] Then the cross did it. It was definitely an upgrade to

[00:32:54] The cross Dave was hilarious though

[00:32:56] He was always trying to get everybody to get their face of their head tattooed

[00:33:01] Real character made made my heart happy and Chuck. I mean everybody did there

[00:33:07] but

[00:33:09] Here's a trip and I was so happy that I got to experience him

[00:33:14] receiving this Bible

[00:33:16] getting this cover up and we we took a little bit of a video session

[00:33:22] Where recorded him getting tattooed while, you know like clutching the Bible

[00:33:27] And it was only because I was looking at him and he was kind of hugging himself

[00:33:31] And I was like man

[00:33:32] It looks like you need like a stuffed animal or something to hug or a pillow

[00:33:35] He was like no, I'm fine and London was like whoa. You should get your Bible. You should hug your Bible and

[00:33:43] This is what honestly guys I love being in a private studio

[00:33:48] Because it's a lot about my clients, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the banter and the

[00:33:55] experience of being around other artists and

[00:33:59] just the fun that you can have around other creatives who

[00:34:05] You know, we'll just do the most. I mean it's it's spontaneous. It's in the moment. It's playful. It's

[00:34:14] It's like magical almost it's like in that that vein of I don't know

[00:34:20] The here and now that's just so beautiful and it's just spontaneous the whimsy is

[00:34:27] Is there and it's it's really cool

[00:34:30] and so I

[00:34:33] You know lots of moments like that I got I got to hang out with Renee. She was actually she had to leave early

[00:34:41] Earlier than my guest spot

[00:34:44] Actually ended with she had to go to a tattoo convention of her own in Colorado

[00:34:49] Which is really cool. So she you know, she had to leave the studio and and pack up and

[00:34:58] It's just it's so cool to watch somebody

[00:35:02] Create such a space if if ever you talk to Renee little

[00:35:07] Ask her about her space gold thing and

[00:35:11] What it looked like prior. It was this abandoned warehouse space that I

[00:35:17] Mean it looked like a post-apocalyptic nightmare and what she has made this place into is just

[00:35:26] unreal

[00:35:27] it's unreal and

[00:35:30] Almost everything in it has her hand her touch

[00:35:34] Like nothing matches, but it all does

[00:35:38] There's just beautiful hints of gold everywhere like the name gold fang. I love her t-shirts

[00:35:45] I bought a couple of those I bought her tattoo ointment because if nothing else

[00:35:51] I want to I want to use it on me for future tattoos, which I hope to get and

[00:35:57] And

[00:35:58] yeah, I

[00:36:01] Thoroughly loved everything about my experience there and I want to go back. I'd like to go back sooner than later

[00:36:08] I don't know if it's gonna happen. I mean

[00:36:10] now that I'm home and kind of

[00:36:13] Kind of settling back from from the whole trip. It was a lot

[00:36:18] But it was also so accessible too guys like

[00:36:22] It's it's so easy to get in a car man and like just drive

[00:36:27] I mean really to get there. It was like a straight shot almost

[00:36:32] I only had to turn a few times off of 70 and then it was like

[00:36:36] I think it was like 340 and then it was on 81 and then 81 turned into 40 and it was just straight

[00:36:42] Like straight the whole time straight through Tennessee, which I love Tennessee

[00:36:47] I'm super sad that my friend Carol LaBaron been on the podcast

[00:36:52] She was actually sick and recovering. I would have liked to have

[00:36:59] Tried to get a hold of her but now that I know that Tennessee is not that bad

[00:37:04] It's like it's not even it's like a 10-hour drive

[00:37:10] But I don't think it's even that much to get to Carol because on the edge of Tennessee her her area

[00:37:17] Now that I know that it's that accessible. I really really really want to go to Tennessee

[00:37:23] honestly what I was thinking

[00:37:25] after all of this was that I

[00:37:28] would maybe

[00:37:30] the next guest spot

[00:37:32] aim to work in Tennessee

[00:37:37] Have a couple days that I visit with Carol LaBaron and

[00:37:40] then have a guest spot somewhere in Nashville because I really want to check out Nashville and

[00:37:46] then

[00:37:47] cruise through Arkansas at the end of that

[00:37:51] spend just fun time in

[00:37:54] Oklahoma because I really want to hang out with the people that I was there with we

[00:38:01] Chase was talking about doing some

[00:38:06] Waterboard kayak action in the summertime that sounds amazing

[00:38:11] Um, just stuff to look forward to every day everybody there was so fun

[00:38:16] I'd love to relax with them more and really have a great time

[00:38:20] I

[00:38:23] You know, I haven't even spoken about karma, but that was another

[00:38:27] amazing time too, and I'd love to just have some

[00:38:31] either off time or

[00:38:34] Hangout time with the people there

[00:38:37] Of course, that wasn't really I mean it was a part of what I experienced when I went there

[00:38:42] But you know, I had to work in between so you know, everybody had to work in between

[00:38:46] but you know, I think if I scheduled some fun time maybe a couple art days

[00:38:52] with just the folks that I worked with this past time and then

[00:38:57] fun only in

[00:38:59] Oklahoma

[00:39:01] Pickleball too like I want more pickleball. That's awesome

[00:39:04] And then fun only in Oklahoma and then on the way back

[00:39:09] schedule

[00:39:11] guest spot in Missouri and

[00:39:13] Then I'm thinking Indiana as well. I actually ran into a lady

[00:39:19] I'm jumping past karma. I'll get back to that

[00:39:22] I met a lady at the super eight that we stayed at

[00:39:27] Tiffany she was lovely. She told me about her tattoo artist his name's baby cakes

[00:39:32] His name is Daniel and he's funny as shit man. Like I

[00:39:38] Like I really want to meet this guy. He just he's hilarious and he does really great like tattoo ads. He's

[00:39:46] He's pretty funny and I just I kind of I kind of dig him and I love I

[00:39:52] love just the

[00:39:54] That you know the the special happening of

[00:39:58] Meeting this woman at the super eight when we checked in late at night

[00:40:02] And she was getting off of her shift and my dad told her about me being a tattoo artist and she really

[00:40:09] She really was excited about it. So maybe work in Indiana

[00:40:12] Hang out with Tiffany

[00:40:15] You know, maybe meet Daniel that'd be fun. I don't know he might not want to meet me. Who knows?

[00:40:20] and then

[00:40:23] I'm not sure like either come back from there or do a spot in Ohio too because Ohio is on the way. There's a red tree

[00:40:31] There's lots of possibilities

[00:40:34] And I would every time I do these trips like you know in

[00:40:40] 2000

[00:40:42] For the year but when I went to Omaha, they were like you just came here man

[00:40:47] You should you should do more of a tour next time and of course it didn't I

[00:40:52] I

[00:40:53] Just came to Oklahoma afterwards and they were like you're just coming to Oklahoma. You're not going anywhere else. I'm like no

[00:41:00] a large largely because

[00:41:04] Rico didn't come and

[00:41:06] I didn't want to take my family out of the mix too long. I

[00:41:11] could see

[00:41:13] Doing this trip and doing a tour if I got another tattoo artist involved. I have several lady tattoo artists that

[00:41:21] Maybe it might have to come down to

[00:41:24] the fall or something like that

[00:41:26] maybe I can convince them to

[00:41:29] you know

[00:41:31] Take a road trip with me out to all these places and do this tour with me and both of us guest spot and

[00:41:38] really, you know travel with a

[00:41:40] Another tattoo artist and that that would be fun and fruitful

[00:41:44] And I do have a couple a couple folks that I would ask to see if they would be interested in doing that

[00:41:50] But yeah, like

[00:41:53] That's the biggest reason is that if Rico is not gonna come I

[00:41:57] really can't take that long away from home and

[00:42:00] a week honestly is

[00:42:03] Kind of too short it. I mean it's enough to like work at a place and have a good time and kind of feel it out

[00:42:10] It's a good maiden voyage kind of thing but

[00:42:13] Everything went by way too fast and there just didn't feel like enough time

[00:42:18] I just love these places so much and the people so on that note karma

[00:42:25] Karma I met Rick and his crew which you know, he doesn't have the same crew anymore. Now. It's just his family

[00:42:33] mostly because I think that he's really trying to

[00:42:39] Elevate the seriousness of his place and I could tell that he really wants

[00:42:46] For the people there to understand why they're there and to come ready to work ready to do a good job

[00:42:54] Have the utmost respect he's been in the industry for 30 years

[00:42:59] My big hope is to have both him and Renee on the podcast and I get dire entries from both of them

[00:43:06] About their beginnings

[00:43:08] Both are kind of trepidatious about it

[00:43:11] they both kind of

[00:43:14] You can tell that they've been through a lot you can tell that it's been a mixed bag

[00:43:20] That much time in the game will produce quite a fettered

[00:43:26] experience and it also kind of makes you a little leery because

[00:43:31] you don't want to start drama and

[00:43:36] You know, it was a big thought of mine

[00:43:38] When I created this podcast was that I didn't really want to start any drama either

[00:43:45] That's why I felt like personal stories were the best way to go because

[00:43:52] I mean, you really can't take away from a personal story. I mean you can

[00:43:59] I mean I listen to a lot of commentators and

[00:44:02] you know

[00:44:04] Sometimes, you know, you love to hate them, but that's kind of what they know

[00:44:09] I mean, there's not a single thing that they can say that

[00:44:12] isn't without its critique and they kind of know about that and

[00:44:17] It's just hard when when you're saying things or you're telling about something to

[00:44:26] Walk

[00:44:28] cautiously and speak very very

[00:44:32] Graciously all the time, especially when some some shits happen to you and

[00:44:39] You know, I hope when people listen to the podcast, they know they're getting

[00:44:45] They're getting a moment in time

[00:44:47] They're getting that person's perspective at that time and it is just that it's that person's perspective

[00:44:55] And it's what they have to give in that moment

[00:44:58] We all evolve we all grow

[00:45:01] I hope that's also known about this is that this is a diary

[00:45:05] It's not just mine. It's not just the people who's been on it

[00:45:10] It's a moving thing. It's something that is supposed to show progress

[00:45:16] and

[00:45:18] Give all of you who listen the understanding that we're all in this

[00:45:23] We're all doing a thing and we're all

[00:45:26] We're all growing and seeking and striving and struggling and all of that and it's not easy. It really isn't

[00:45:35] so it was a bit interesting going into karma because when I met Rick and his crew, you know

[00:45:42] It was in paradise and I met a bunch of his crew

[00:45:45] I even hung out with some of his crew

[00:45:48] After you know after hours and caught up with everybody and said hi just for a moment

[00:45:56] Because in in tattooing man that stuff can happen so fast, you know like paradigm shift so quickly and

[00:46:06] At the end of the day, it's just business

[00:46:09] It's hard because I mean you guys have heard me after I was let go at Tattooed Heart

[00:46:18] It's hard to have boundaries everyone because you're intimately with these

[00:46:22] these co-workers you're doing something that

[00:46:26] You know, it's art. It doesn't it the whole the whole

[00:46:29] premise with art is to go beyond boundaries or to test boundaries and you're kind of like a

[00:46:35] pseudo visual

[00:46:37] scientist in a lot of ways or

[00:46:39] You know, you're healing yourself. So you got to kind of go deep and you experience people

[00:46:46] At levels that not a lot of people get to experience or witness and it's hard not to

[00:46:54] You know

[00:46:57] really go beyond a

[00:46:59] Normal business attitude with people and quite frankly, I don't I

[00:47:04] Don't really have that about me the corporate environment

[00:47:08] I don't even understand why people enjoy it. I guess they they like the boundaries

[00:47:13] They like that just leave it all in one place and go home or you know, not take it too seriously

[00:47:21] Excuse me

[00:47:23] Excuse me listeners

[00:47:26] I don't I

[00:47:28] Like to give it all in each place. I don't have I

[00:47:33] Mean I struggle with boundaries. I grew up in a family business and I worked for my father

[00:47:39] first and

[00:47:42] You know, it's hard to maintain boundaries when

[00:47:45] you know, you go to work and then

[00:47:48] You're with your family and then you come off of work and you're not with your family

[00:47:53] but the conversation about work still continues because

[00:47:57] It's all about the family in the end. It's all about giving back to this core home base

[00:48:03] And even if it isn't your family that you're working with

[00:48:06] You know, you understand people

[00:48:09] You got to understand that they're all going back to their families too and they all got to do what's right for them

[00:48:14] You know

[00:48:17] Well pardon listeners, I had to I had to take a bathroom break it was that's the other thing man like go on a road trips

[00:48:25] you find out

[00:48:27] find out a lot about your

[00:48:30] Ability to hold liquids or not in my case. I I have been informed that my pelvic floor

[00:48:38] Needs to grow and strength

[00:48:41] Uh

[00:48:43] That that is pretty reminiscent of my entire body at this point, so

[00:48:50] Given how sore I was after pickleball

[00:48:53] It's just one of many things that I need to work on

[00:48:57] The carnivore diet. I loved it did a lot for me, but I have

[00:49:02] been so

[00:49:05] Blasphemous outside of that. I've even accepted gluten

[00:49:10] This past trip. I just I mean I didn't eat badly, but I didn't eat

[00:49:15] Restricted when it came to any kind of diet

[00:49:20] So

[00:49:22] It's a

[00:49:24] It's definitely shown everybody I feel very bloated and

[00:49:29] Very out of shape

[00:49:33] But you know, hopefully

[00:49:36] Hopefully God will bless me with more time to turn that ship around

[00:49:41] anyway

[00:49:44] What I was getting at it was

[00:49:47] It's hard to have boundaries when it comes to these small businesses and

[00:49:55] It's it's hard to

[00:49:58] And it would be hard for me, I think to create a place that was fully mine

[00:50:08] With really no intention of it being fully mine, but it ending up being that way and then

[00:50:16] knowing all the things that that happened along the way and

[00:50:20] I've experienced this with my family

[00:50:23] Now we had our business and we did so much for

[00:50:27] The people who worked for us and just no matter what man

[00:50:31] I

[00:50:34] Just stuff goes awry that you just don't ever think could and

[00:50:40] You can't

[00:50:42] Can't say that there was bad people involved necessarily. It's just that

[00:50:46] everybody's coming from different perspectives and different parts of their lives and

[00:50:51] It's just really hard

[00:50:55] Scares the shit out of me if I'm being honest

[00:50:58] It really scares the crap out of me, you know, I've been tossing around the idea of opening up my own shop Riko's

[00:51:05] Pretty convinced that we could do it. I'm not saying that we couldn't I just

[00:51:11] It scares me man

[00:51:13] it scares me to

[00:51:17] have that kind of

[00:51:20] place and

[00:51:23] I

[00:51:24] Mean I guess that stuff that's worth doing if it scares you

[00:51:30] Ultimately, I would love it if I was able to come together with my family and do something

[00:51:35] With all of us or at least kind of

[00:51:39] Vigorating that that family business kind of vibe and and start from there

[00:51:46] Tattooing is definitely the the a me thing that's definitely something that only I do and

[00:51:52] Nobody in my family wants a tattoo my dad

[00:51:57] My dad has a tattoo by me, but he doesn't want anymore. He just had me cover up an old one that he had so and

[00:52:04] Neither my niece or my nephews are really that interested my niece could be later on in life. I don't know

[00:52:12] But nobody else is

[00:52:14] There's been talk of little tattoos that may be my sister-in-law and her family might get together

[00:52:20] But nothing crazy, you know, not that you have to go crazy can have little tattoos

[00:52:25] But yeah, there's not there's not much interest in tattooing

[00:52:30] in my family in general and

[00:52:34] Like I said, whatever whatever I'm feeling I could relate a lot to Rick and karma

[00:52:41] In the place that he's at right now because it's very similar to what I'm feeling right now like

[00:52:48] Really foundational really family oriented and family first

[00:52:54] Really making sure that I'm growing from a place that feels very right and that I'm not

[00:53:03] Overly negotiating my expectations. I want to keep my expectations up

[00:53:10] And I want the people who come into my life

[00:53:15] to

[00:53:18] Meet those expectations and

[00:53:21] You know because I'm kind of tired of leveraging those things and I I know I'm not a person who

[00:53:31] Expects a lot from people. I expect a lot from myself

[00:53:37] From others. I feel like I give them a very

[00:53:41] even keeled

[00:53:43] Beasts and I can understand, you know when things happen like I said about our Airbnb, you know

[00:53:51] It wasn't perfect, but it was fine. You know like stuff happened, but it was

[00:53:57] Stuff that would have happened

[00:54:00] Had we been there or not, you know, like

[00:54:03] you can't really

[00:54:06] Expect that, you know stuff doesn't go

[00:54:11] Arrive, you know life happens. I think Riko's home. So there's some background noise apologies

[00:54:18] But anyway getting back to karma. I had a wonderful time there

[00:54:23] I was able to tattoo Rick which was such an honor

[00:54:26] You know tattooing a tattoo artist that has been in the game for 30 years hearing his background

[00:54:32] meeting his family

[00:54:35] Eating the food recommendation. I mean I got to eat I got to eat tongue on

[00:54:42] old route 66 and

[00:54:46] Where was it? Let me make sure because I can look this up really quickly. I

[00:54:51] Was told by Rick that

[00:54:54] Once I ate here that I could I could officially say that I had been I

[00:55:00] Had been in Tulsa because anybody who

[00:55:04] Knows Tulsa knows this place and

[00:55:10] And they they praise it for the best tacos. It's a it's a reddit thread

[00:55:16] So if you if you've gone there

[00:55:20] You know, this is this is the place to go

[00:55:23] Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Another place in Tulsa that we went to that was really cool upon recommendation for

[00:55:31] From Rick was the gathering place. There's shots of that on my

[00:55:37] on my

[00:55:41] Timeline on my actual tattoo page that you guys can check out. It was a beautiful park

[00:55:47] Super super nice. It was

[00:55:49] It was next to the hydro electric company and that that whole like taught Tulsa energy works

[00:55:56] But it was gorgeous. Some of it was under construction

[00:55:59] But just a gorgeous park great skate park. I

[00:56:04] Kind of want to I kind of want to tell Dave from goldfang about it because it was so epic

[00:56:09] I got to let him know I'm gonna send him some videos and be like, hey, bro

[00:56:14] I don't know if there's anything like this in Oklahoma City, but Tulsa man. What's up?

[00:56:22] It was called the taco joint on Route 66 is called Don Francisco's

[00:56:28] And another great eats by in Tulsa. I have never in my life experience

[00:56:33] Was in the Indonesian food and it was at Rendang Rendang

[00:56:38] Indonesian Bishroh

[00:56:40] Rendang and company is Indonesian Bishroh and we went there because

[00:56:46] Rick had his friend in town

[00:56:50] from Bali and

[00:56:53] And he hadn't seen his friend Tim

[00:56:56] For a couple years if not more

[00:57:00] Because Tim had had a stroke and was recovering and you know, he was now

[00:57:05] Recovered and back on the road, but just trying to pick things up and he's an incredible

[00:57:11] Salesman and he sells gorgeous jewelry that they make there in Bali and

[00:57:17] Masks and carved skulls. I mean I

[00:57:21] Took some pictures, but you know, I thought I was gonna be able to videotape the whole thing and realize very quickly that

[00:57:27] I did not I did not have enough battery on my phone to record everything that was going on

[00:57:34] in fact, I left like really late at night

[00:57:38] hoping that I would

[00:57:40] be able to feed my father and I with Jersey Mike subs, but then our our

[00:57:46] What do you call them?

[00:57:50] The delivery person. I forget what company it was

[00:57:54] But he didn't he didn't deliver our subs so they refunded me

[00:57:58] But we couldn't eat so had to make shift make something really quickly at night. So that was not fun

[00:58:05] but yeah, I

[00:58:07] Had to keep I had to stay around because Tim was so cool and so rare and he was selling things that you would never find and of

[00:58:14] course

[00:58:15] Every piece of jewelry that I loved

[00:58:17] Was kind of going like he wasn't gonna sell them anymore

[00:58:21] So it was like oh my god

[00:58:22] I gotta get I gotta get this piece because they're not gonna sell it anymore and it's so unique and so cool. So

[00:58:28] on top of boots, I bought jewelry

[00:58:32] And I bought you know, like I bought more things for myself

[00:58:37] Honestly than I did anybody and that's kind of sad to admit especially going into Mother's Day

[00:58:44] God help me

[00:58:46] but I made I made the most of my trip and

[00:58:52] Let's see. Let's see what else

[00:58:55] Rendang was so good

[00:58:57] The food I love Indonesian food. It's like a great combination of

[00:59:03] Chinese Thai

[00:59:05] Indian almost like it just kind of has

[00:59:09] Kind of all things and it has like a Korean

[00:59:12] You know Asian, but it's like all things and you eat with your hands that made it extra special

[00:59:20] On top of tattooing Rick. I also tattooed his daughter Sarah

[00:59:25] She allowed me to do a

[00:59:29] Flash piece that I think I designed in 2004

[00:59:33] So I the flash piece was almost as

[00:59:39] Old as she was

[00:59:41] Signed it back then so it's it's 20 year old flash and

[00:59:47] She's 21 and it has a skull

[00:59:50] So it was very cool because both her father and her both got a skull

[00:59:55] But it was like a death head moth that I kind of muted muted into a skull a little bit more than usual

[01:00:01] And that was really cool to do a flash design that I hadn't done before on someone and

[01:00:08] Not only that but do something to both

[01:00:11] You know a third year old a third or you old tattoo artist and his daughter

[01:00:15] I mean what an epic thing and then I got to do a dragon on Bonnie Bonnie Sue and

[01:00:23] She she just saw I was in the area. She had just gotten back from Thailand with her husband and

[01:00:29] She had wanted this dragon that she had seen it

[01:00:35] Was tile work from the Ming dynasty Chinese

[01:00:39] And she just loved it and her Chinese zodiac is a dragon and

[01:00:44] She always wanted it and

[01:00:46] She'd been wanting it for like two years

[01:00:48] And then she saw my work and she saw where I was and she saw that I was in town at that moment

[01:00:53] And she just reached out and it just all kind of worked out all at once and it was super cool

[01:01:00] So I you know, I got this hat to

[01:01:03] somebody in Tulsa man

[01:01:05] Rick was advertising the crap out of me for Tulsa

[01:01:09] I

[01:01:10] Think it was a little worried that I wouldn't be busy

[01:01:13] But I wasn't worried about that at all if nothing else

[01:01:16] I would have hung out with him and like I said tattooing him and his family was pretty special and meeting his family was really special and

[01:01:24] Meeting his friend Tim from Bali of all places and then Tim's son

[01:01:32] G G Rayi

[01:01:34] I

[01:01:36] It was just epic. It was just epic. I would have I mean I

[01:01:40] Caught somebody that isn't in town

[01:01:43] frequently and hadn't been in town for years and and I was just in this really beautiful bubble of

[01:01:50] time

[01:01:52] To experience everybody and then on top of that

[01:01:56] My dad was with me and I think for my time in Tulsa especially

[01:02:01] my dad

[01:02:02] was very cool to have around because

[01:02:06] You know having my dad be there and he was my first mentor

[01:02:10] He taught me hair and we had kind of been in a family business. I think it was really cool

[01:02:16] for him and Rick to kind of

[01:02:18] relate to each other and trade dad jokes and dirty jokes and a whole bunch of different stuff and

[01:02:26] You know kind of knock around

[01:02:29] some thoughts and feelings and

[01:02:31] Stories together was super cool. It was much cooler than I would have given on my own and I really feel like

[01:02:40] Having my dad there as someone you know as an extension of me

[01:02:46] Was very special because it was able to share more about the intimacy of my life

[01:02:53] with Rick because he was giving so much to me and

[01:02:56] Both him and his wife Angela gave me so much. I mean

[01:03:02] I mean on top of the skin and you know access to his family

[01:03:08] Just the information the the banter it was all so great

[01:03:14] So in short

[01:03:17] diary listeners

[01:03:19] Highly recommend road trips highly recommend spending as much time

[01:03:25] as

[01:03:26] Possible as you are given

[01:03:28] to spend with your family

[01:03:31] Don't be a brat like me and

[01:03:34] resent bringing your father

[01:03:37] Embrace it and love it and make the most out of it take lots of pictures. I'm I

[01:03:44] Wish I would have taken more but I'm happy for the ones I took

[01:03:51] Play investigate eat

[01:03:56] Listen all those things

[01:04:00] It's a great education to go and visit another studio both in who you are as a person

[01:04:09] Travel

[01:04:11] Life in general

[01:04:13] But also you learn a lot about tattooing or whatever craft you're interested in and it's it's very cool

[01:04:21] So if you haven't done it yet as a tattoo artist and I'd say if you're

[01:04:26] three years in I

[01:04:28] Mean my friend Nicole like I mentioned her she did it. I think a year and a half two years into her her tattoo career

[01:04:36] Do it, you know, like I don't hold back

[01:04:39] There's no reason to

[01:04:41] Give yourself some time

[01:04:43] Thoroughly planned it out as best you can and then leave moments for

[01:04:48] really happy little

[01:04:50] Moments and surprises because that makes it the best

[01:04:54] You know you plan enough and then you leave some whimsy about it and I can honestly say that that

[01:05:01] That's exactly what this was. It was the perfect amount of planned

[01:05:05] Stuff and the perfect amount of whimsy

[01:05:07] I

[01:05:08] Got to spend time with my dad

[01:05:11] It's just so cool

[01:05:13] I'm so

[01:05:15] overwhelmed by how

[01:05:18] Awesome my dad is and

[01:05:22] Yeah diary listeners

[01:05:25] Thank you for listening to this week's podcast. I know it was kind of a long one

[01:05:31] It was two weeks that I had to wrap up and I'm sure I've left out a bunch

[01:05:36] pardon the interruptions

[01:05:38] My eating sounds in the beginning, but I had I had I had to once I once I picked out a pickle for a snack

[01:05:48] That kind of tied into pickleball. I just found it was uh, it's too good. It was too good not to include

[01:05:55] plus it just adds to that

[01:05:58] Fun surprise and you know just like I did my lip smacking and my little raw

[01:06:04] things that happen. I don't know why but I'm finding that

[01:06:08] My breath is a little

[01:06:11] Straightened this time. I feel like I'm taking a lot of deep breaths. I

[01:06:15] Don't know but anyway

[01:06:21] I got to go listeners. I have a day. I have designs. It's full bore into next things

[01:06:27] I have to get back to people I

[01:06:30] Have more things to do while I was doing this with you couple people hit me up on text messages

[01:06:36] It's just it's constant

[01:06:39] Roll with it

[01:06:40] Live your life. Thank you for listening to mine for a little bit

[01:06:44] It was a it was an awesome awesome trip that I'm really happy that I got to report about and that

[01:06:51] It was just wonderful. So

[01:06:53] God bless you listeners have a great week make it powerful and if you get an opportunity to travel. I

[01:07:00] Highly recommend you do

[01:07:02] Later

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