Ep. 284 "Starting Fires" (Diary Entry 2:2 with John Lee)
The Apprenticeship DiariesSeptember 22, 2026
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Ep. 284 "Starting Fires" (Diary Entry 2:2 with John Lee)

We are back with John Lee! The The Constitutional Cavalier  is back and in this episode, starting some "fires"...Hopefully in all of us. 

I pray a warmth grows in each of you as you listen to Part 2 and the conclusion of this time, with John Lee. He certainly made my mind curious at many points. 

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[00:00:00] Welcome back Diary listeners and happy Tuesday. We're here again with my friend John Lee. If you tuned in last week, well then you kind of understand where this is going this week. It also provided, he provided a great hook last week for this week in his continued conversations about our law, our constitution. I would imagine that if you're back this week that you're kind of a junkie like we are.

[00:00:30] And curious. So welcome back. This second half of this diary entry with John Lee is titled Starting Fires because, well, you'll see. Welcome to the Apprenticeship Diaries where raw meets refined. Let's be real, we're still working on refined. What it took, what it takes, and the stories that are made. Join us as we learn from professionals about how their stories begin.

[00:01:00] The judiciary does not interpret. It's a fallacy. It applies the law. Yes.

[00:01:24] The judiciary literally is supposed to look at the constitution and look at the laws that are constitutionally binding, because only laws and statutes that are made in pursuant thereof hold the power of law. Anything else is null and void. And that's not because of Marbury versus Madison. That's because of the supremacy clause and the structure of the government or the structure of the constitution and the ninth and tenth amendments.

[00:01:52] Marbury versus Madison was just the Supreme Court doing their job properly. When the Supreme Court gets it right, it's great. They got it right. When they get it wrong, it's toilet paper. And a lot of people don't realize that. It's like, you know, you and a lot of this trickles down into the law enforcement, into the law enforcement sector.

[00:02:14] And I know that that's a touchy subject with a lot of Americans because you get a lot of people that are, you know, fly the blue line flag and, you know, if you don't support cops, you hate cops. But that's not the case. You and I both know we have a police officer in our congregation. He was actually my teacher. I take a bullet for the man. He's my brother in Christ. And, you know, he's my brother from another mother in real life. You know, I love the man, but he is a cop.

[00:02:41] And when I don't mean that the way I said that I said that wrong, it's not. But he's still a cop. It's I still love him regardless of that. He. He would, you know, he knows his job and he knows the Constitution, and I trust him to do his job within the confines thereof. And he is probably one out of maybe three people that I know that work in law enforcement that are in my life that I would trust to do the same.

[00:03:13] But and that's but this is where it gets dicey. You get a lot of people. You got a lot of these auditors now that are online and they're making content, which I just heard. That a lot of content on YouTube is actually getting demonetized because YouTube is YouTube is seeing a lot of these like First Amendment auditors and stuff as being troublesome. And I can kind of agree and I kind of disagree in the same light, because, again, as a constitutionalist, yes, go out and execute your rights.

[00:03:43] Go out and stand on principle. I 100 percent support that. But don't go looking for a fight that makes it destroys your under it destroys your argument. Yeah. You know, yes, I get the point. You've got to go out there. You've got to invoke a confrontation so that you can invoke your rights. But can't you just do that in your normal day to day? Yeah. You know what I mean? Just do that in your normal day to day.

[00:04:06] And so apparently YouTube and I haven't done any real research on the subject, but apparently YouTube has demonetized a lot of First Amendment auditors because they see their content as being. Aggregated and you know, like they're going out and they're looking for a fight and they don't want that kind of content. So they're I guess they're punishing a lot of content creators for that.

[00:04:30] Yeah, I know that the louder with Crowder was very much one of them, even though in a big way he was he just had a table and a sign that says, you know, change my mind. Yeah, I mean that that's about as. You know, aggressive as I got was like, you walked up here. I'm invite, you know, like it's just it's just an invitation to change my mind. Like, that's it. Right.

[00:04:56] But, you know, the and that meme has that meme has got a lot of power. I think that he did a great job with that as far as becoming a meme. There's there's a lot of well, there's endless uses for that. That particular meme, if you will, because I mean, change my mind. I mean, you could put so many pre you can you can you can preload that with so many different topics. Yeah. You know, for instance, the Supreme Court is supposed to read the law and apply it, not interpret it.

[00:05:26] Change my mind. Change my mind. You know what I mean? So it's like it's got a lot of use constitutionally. That's that's pretty awesome. But but yeah. But what I was getting to with the with the and I apologize for being long winded on the subject. No, it's good. But the but the law enforcement side of Supreme Court rulings is really, really dicey because. Of the way law enforcement executes what they believe to be lawful is actually unlawful. Mm hmm.

[00:05:56] And. It gets to be a really dark conversation because you get a lot of people out here that. Don't understand that you need to turn the other cheek. You know, even in the face of adversity and even when you know it's wrong. The Christian. Well, I don't want to say Christian. I want to say the biblical Christ like response is to turn the other cheek.

[00:06:25] Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek and to. Not be vengeful. So it's hard, even though you have the right because you most certainly absolutely have the right to protect yourself when you are unlawfully detained or unlawfully arrested. That is a constitutionally and Supreme Court recognized right. Mm hmm. Um, but it doesn't necessarily make it correct. Oh, no. God's.

[00:06:54] And, you know, so it's a slippery slope. It's absolutely a slippery slope to have that discussion. But again, back to back to the ethos of what I'm trying to deliver with with my. My brand, if you will, or my podcast is to make sure that you're educated and you're aware and you can act. Appropriately.

[00:07:20] Even in the even in the eyes of adversity, you know, oh, and again, a nod to the First Amendment auditors. They get to say. Yeah, sure, I'm going to get in the squad car. Yeah, sure. You're going to put me in cuffs. And yeah, sure. You're going to see me again. Mm hmm. In your favor. And unfortunately. Well, I say unfortunately, but I also mean it.

[00:07:47] Fortunately, it's it's it's two sides of the same stone, if you will. Our freedom and our law and our liberty will be won back through the courts, but it will also be won back through peaceful. Mm hmm. Noncompliance. Yes. Because sooner or later. We have to remember that police are people, too. Their citizens first. Their police officers second. We just have to remind them of that. Yeah. Because.

[00:08:15] You know, there are neighbors again back to the golden rule. Right. You know what I mean? And that's that has taken me personally. That's taken me a lot of time to understand. I actually had a discussion with our pastor about it at camp. You know, I came to him with that question. You know, when do we strike back? And he's like, you don't because that's not the right way.

[00:08:39] You know, an individual retaliation is suicide, especially in the environment that our country is in right now. So, you know, again, I know that built off. Sorry, I know that built off of the Supreme Court thing. But you know, it's good. It's good. It's actually a common. It's OK. I'm curious about your sound card, because I had a sound board at one point and then found it to be way too much for what I needed.

[00:09:08] And I just have a Yeti, a blue Yeti standing microphone. It does everything. It's just connected straight into my computer and it's easy. I bought a sound card for the sound effects. It actually does a couple of things, but I can't get the balances right. So it's like because, you know, just like you and you can appreciate it because there was things that I wanted to be able to like. Like I see I can.

[00:09:36] And then there's a fun things. The rim shot. You know, yeah. Can you hear that? I can hear a button being pushed or something of some kind, but I'm not hearing like a sound. OK, so it's not true. Well, so you know why? Because Zoom has a external noise suppression.

[00:09:58] And it does that so that you won't hear the cars outside my window here or anything that happens outside of this door here that Rico might do because he's a loud walker. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why or why not. It's not doing it, but I have on this side. It probably is doing it, but Zoom is probably going, nope, we're not letting that through because that's right. Yeah. Which is something that I do.

[00:10:27] It also doesn't just as an interesting aside. My laughter is very loud. It will suppress my laughter at a certain point and kind of like knock it back. It's a crime. Well, thank you. I love it, but like, you know, and people love it, too, but it can get it can get to a certain octave that is shrill.

[00:10:54] And if you're there's some people that like over simulations very much so a thing and you can get a little too riotous. And I can appreciate that for what it is. But yeah, the conversation they were just having, that's one that my husband and I frequently have. He's like, you know, when when when do you push back? When when are we going to resort to, you know, our own means?

[00:11:21] And I was like, when when I when I am shutting up and just doing what you tell me to do, you'll know. But it's going to take. Massive fallout, it's going to take us to the point where it's survival. That's when you're not pushing back, you're simply defending. That's when it's not that. And at that point.

[00:11:47] I will finally shut up, I will be silent and I'll be like, OK, babe, you're you're taking over now because you're the better shot. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's really it's really awesome, though, because I also have noticed that there is a change in this. There's been a shift in law enforcement, at least in my local area. So.

[00:12:13] I actually got stopped, I want to say, like two weeks ago, something like that. But with with Governor Moore's nonsense and him hiking up all the prices of everything in Maryland, one of my personal flights that I picked was tags. Car registration. So all my cars have dead tags. And I got pulled over on my way to dinner with the missus and the daughter. We were going to meet the mother in law for dinner.

[00:12:41] And I got stopped and, you know, cop was following us for probably well over five to ten miles. And he finally just decided to throw his lights on. He pulls us over and, you know, he does the whole bit. He comes to the side door side window. He's like, you know why I pulled you over? And I'm like, no, I don't. And then he tells me, oh, your tags are dead. And I was like, well, is that a crime? I mean, I just I just hit him with it. Like I was stoic. Is that a crime? He was like, well, no, it's a traffic offense. And so then I played with him a little bit.

[00:13:09] And I was like, well, traffic, traffic is a that's a commercial term. This car is not in commerce. It's not a commercial vehicle. And we're traveling privately, you know. So what do you need? He was like, well, I need your license and registration. I was like, well, he's like, do you have a license? I was like, well, yeah, I have a commercial license for work, you know, because I drive commercial. So I started, you know, I started differentiating between commercial and private.

[00:13:34] And that comes from probably recognize the flag behind me that comes from the state national movement where they start, you know, getting into the. Nitpicks of the law and the terminology and stuff. And surprisingly, it seemed to have worked. So, you know, I ended up just giving the officer my license and registration, which was fine. You know, he went to his cruiser and he spoke to an office. He spoke to a state trooper that I'd come to assist, I guess. And about ten, about five minutes later, he comes back and he hands me a warning.

[00:14:03] And then he gets apologetic. He's like, I wasn't trying to be rude or anything. And I told him straight up, I said, this went the best way it could have gone. Honestly. You did what you had to do. At the bare minimum, which was good. And I did what I needed to do. I brought you. The question, you know, I made you question yourself. I made you understand that I was not here to listen to whatever it was. You weren't going to, you know, get over on me. I was going to make you work for this. Right.

[00:14:33] You gave me a warning. I'm happy with that. Have a nice day, officer. Thank you. It's like I went on. I went to dinner. Came home. Haven't had a problem since, you know. And it's like, you know, a lot of people might, you know, they might shame me. They want to shake their finger at me. Oh, you should do this. Well, I don't have a spare $400 to throw at Westmore in the NBA just so that I can go to work every day. And quite frankly, I don't need to. I have a right to get up and go and pursue my happiness every day.

[00:15:03] It's right in the Declaration of Independence. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so it's it's like I'm not going to play the games anymore. These are the little fights that I pick. And, you know, I've had enough experience with the traffic courts and I've had enough experience with the courts with my battle that I fought. I'm brave enough to stand up in a courtroom and I have no problem saying, I know that you think you're right, but you are indeed wrong.

[00:15:32] And here are the rights. Here's the rules. And if you continue to violate them, it's eventually going to cost you your job. Right. And God forbid you cost me mine because then I have damages to sue on. Right. And you won't have immunity because you'll have violated my rights. Yep. So it's like. Pick your battle. No, it's great. And to your earlier point, you know, they serve us, you know, like that's that's supposed to be the point, the order.

[00:16:02] Absolutely. You know, we're not supposed to hold them to the contract. Mm hmm. Yep. No, I love it. So what do you? I know because I know this answer, but what are you calling your podcast? So I I actually I yeah, I talked to you about this today. Um, I think I think the podcast will be. Uh, I think it's going to talk and brush fires. Say that again. Based off. I'm sorry.

[00:16:32] Back talk and brush fires. Thank you. And, uh, and I and that comes from the Samuel Adams quote that I shared with you. Um, that's actually the inspirational quote that gave me the idea for the name. I'm scrolling through our messages from earlier so that I can find a meme. It's a great quote. Yeah. So, um, the Samuel Adams quote, uh, quote, it does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds

[00:17:02] of men by Samuel Adams. Um, so back talk and brush fires is basically going to be, you know, me doing exactly what we've done here tonight and talking and reflecting and just, you know, giving my giving my back talk attitude stance on what's going on, whether it be locally, nationally, or just, you know, general practices of the government in general.

[00:17:29] Um, because like we said earlier, we need to say no. And with no comes. An explanation if you choose, or you can like the fifth amendment says choose to remain silent, but no means no, you know, and there's, there's plenty of diversified groups out there that would agree with me. Right. Mm hmm. Yeah. Um, yeah.

[00:17:54] If I'm taking a stab at the, uh, leftist women, sorry, but, uh, you're just convicting them. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so yeah, I think it's going to be back talk and brush fires and, um, and that would probably, you'll probably see that under my other personified name, which would be the constitutional cavalier.

[00:18:16] Um, but that'll be, that'll be something separate, um, entirely, uh, because that particularly that name is the constitutional cavalier is like I explained to you today. It's, it's more of a personification of who I am and the spirit that I carry or the passion that I have.

[00:18:35] And, um, you know, I, I want to be able to envision that or realize that into, uh, I guess it would be like a brand or, or, or, or a logo, if you will, you know? So that way, you know, somebody can recognize, you know, just like you would recognize, um, you know, like we, the people holsters, you know, they've got their eagle, they've got their logo, you know,

[00:19:01] who we, the people holsters is they make holsters, you know, for everyday second amendment carriers, you know? So, uh, I thought about it in terms of like Matt Walsh, you know, he works for the daily wire and all that stuff. And he is Matt Walsh, but he has the sweet baby gang and they're, I don't know about that. Yeah. They're there. And there's all these t-shirts of him as a baby, but like a bearded baby. And it was like, they're early people. And he's like, you know, the, the early, we don't talk about how it came about.

[00:19:31] They're the sweet mother of my sweet babies. And it hasn't happened for a really long time, but like, I always saw it as like, you'd have your cavaliers, you'd have, you'd, you'd be the one, but then you'd have your band of cavaliers that follow you. Well, and seeing that, that's a, that's a forward vision.

[00:19:50] That's another one of those ideas that have been, you know, bouncing around in my head is, you know, something that I would love to, again, for this to develop into is if the, if the cavalier can develop into a community. Mm-hmm.

[00:20:08] You know, because I actually, I wanted to, and this is again, another thing that's on the process in the background is that I want the cavalier, the constitutional cavalier, I want that to be encapsulated into a ministry's trust. Nice. Yes. That's a good idea. So basically I'm going to have like a sub church or a church of my own, but it will probably operate through, you know, it'll, well, it'll operate out of its own trust.

[00:20:35] And then the cavalier will be a brand, you know, I'll probably, and I'll have merchandising like t-shirts and, you know, insulated cups, you know, that's the trend right now and hats and, you know, maybe, you know, hope, you know, sometime down the line, maybe I can partner with a holster company that'll put my logo on a holster. You know what I mean? That would be cool.

[00:20:59] You know, but the big thing is if the, if, if, if the ministry's trust that, that encapsulates the cavalier's brand can branch out and start sponsoring like private schools and like workshops, and then it grows into, are you ready? I'm ready. Localized minute men. Oh, that's cool. Cavaliers for Christ. Yeah.

[00:21:28] And be like, and that can be, that can be sponsored into motorcycle clubs, motor clubs where people come together, you know, just like we have nowadays, we have motorcycle clubs that, you know, you know, that they, they center themselves on biblical studies and, and, and, and Christian principles and stuff like that. So, you know, there's, there's good things that come out of that. Yeah. Um, it's something that I would love to be able to grow into.

[00:21:57] And even to the point where it encapsulates real live groups like the American Legion or the VFW, where you have constitutional cavalier, uh, camps or, uh, or organized groups that you have actual cavaliers that are acting as local minute men. Mm-hmm.

[00:22:23] Who can be called upon when there are issues, whether it be with law enforcement or with the district courts or the circuit courts, and they can congregate and they can show up in numbers at the board meetings for the board of education and stuff like that. And they can stand in numbers as a show of force by the people that says, we're here. Yeah. And we see what you're doing wrong.

[00:22:46] And as an organized militia, because we have that right, as an organized militia, we are the cavaliers group of whatever locale, be it, you know, the county or whatever city locale. And they can show up in numbers and they can say, not no, but hell no, we're here to say no, and we're not budging from this.

[00:23:09] And, you know, they have the numbers and they have the knowledge and they have the means to say, you can either follow what the people are electing and what the people are saying, or you can relieve yourself from your position and your position will be filled according to the statutes and according to whatever the law says to, to replace you. Whether it be a board member or a judge or a county commissioner or city mayor or whatever. Right.

[00:23:36] Because ultimately that's the way it's done. Yes. That's ultimately the way it's done. The people come together, they become educated, they become aware, they become involved, and then they act. Boom. There you are. That is, that would be a dream come true for me. If, if I could, if I could stir that pot and bring that to a boil, I would love to see that happen.

[00:24:02] Well, I can honestly tell you that because I've been podcasting now for seven years, you are a heck of a lot more foundationally secure in going into this than I ever. Dude, all I just knew about myself is I like to talk. I don't shut up. I loved podcasts as a medium. I was like, screw it. I could do it. You know, like I, so you have an actual vision. I, I, I've been just kind of fiddle farting through this the entire time.

[00:24:32] This sounds a lot. I think you're going to do it is basically what I'm saying. I, it's a, it sounds, um, you know, even though the beginning part seems pretty daunting and what to do next. I think you're going to, I think you're going to do that. Um, and I'm, I'm, yeah. One thing that I love to do is like, just be a part of something. Um, cool. I've always wanted to do cool stuff with cool people.

[00:24:57] And, um, just to be like a little, a little facet to, you know, things. I have so many people that have been on my podcast now have more Instagram followers than me. They're actually doing the things that we talked about years prior before they had even begun. And it's such a really cool thing for me to sit and watch that, especially, I mean, you know, I'm, I'm not a mom, you know, I'm a non-mom.

[00:25:24] Um, but to be like, you know, just kind of, uh, uh, a little spark to your brush fire is going to be really cool. That's awesome. And, you know, and I, and I love that you're involved, you know, and again, one of the, one of the things that's taken me so long, one of the hurdles that I've been dealing with. And it's just been, you know, unlike you, I have a family at home. You know, I have a wife and a daughter that, and three dogs that need my attention.

[00:25:52] I get home from work every day and, you know, there's, there's little things here and there. Sometimes the wife needs to unload her frustrations. And, you know, next thing I know it's dinner time and then dinner's over and it's like, okay, I'll let my food settle. And then before I know it, it's nine o'clock and, you know, I need a shower. I got to go to bed. I don't have time to sit in front of my computer and chat for an hour about, I don't even know what, because I haven't organized my thoughts because I haven't had a chance to decompress myself.

[00:26:20] And so that's been one of my hurdles. So if there's anything that you, if there's any, you know, shiny star that I get to give you from grade school to make you proud of, Amy, girlfriend, sister, thank you for helping me, you know, kind of break out. And thank you for giving me a, an audience, even by proxy. Of course. They're great. I really, I really have enjoyed this. It's really been fun.

[00:26:47] And I honestly would have zero problem if this was, you know, a regular thing, even if it was just you or if it was just like a, like you had said, we had talked about last night. If it, if it's, if you want to do this little sidebar podcast thing, just you and me. Cool. Down for it. Absolutely. I'll even, you know, I'll take the time and make the page on Facebook if you want, or, you know, however, I don't care. I, I really enjoyed this. This was fun. Yeah.

[00:27:14] Well, I, I can honestly say that there's just some things that you have touched on in this that I am curious about. Just as a person, you're very, you're a lot more knowledgeable about all of it than I am the constitution, even in having taken the course. Um, and then, you know, running scenarios like that, even if I was just sitting here with you, as you went through the things that you were doing.

[00:27:42] So you had a person that's there and I could just listen to you. And that way you're talking to me, but you know, you're discussing the things and I love, I'm a fool. Like I'm just a fool for the crowd. Like, honestly, I don't really care about being a failure. I don't really, I'm like amazingly average, um, in so many ways I'm interested in a lot of, you know, stuff. I love learning.

[00:28:08] Um, and, and I'm, yeah, I, I, I think I'm just kind of like a, and I'm immature. I'm innocent in this way that can be, you know, I, I can play the, the side I know of the average person that you could be talking to, that you're actually educating while I'm, I'm getting an education myself.

[00:28:34] So that would be cool for me that, I mean, in a big way, you'd be helping me, but then you'd also be able to do what you want to do, um, in entirely and, and kind of rid yourself of the hangup of just like, I don't like, I, it's hard for me to just look at the freaking camera and act like it's a person and talk to it like that. Like, that's weird. And it is weird. It's weird. Right. See, okay. So I'm not by myself. That's good.

[00:29:02] No, I just, I, I don't record my face most of the time. It's just all audio. So I can just talk and I, you know, I talk to myself all the time. So like, for me, that's easy. Um, I had thought about doing audio only. Um, but I, for some reason, I, I felt this draw to make sure that my face was out there because, because people can put a face to what they're talking about.

[00:29:31] I mean, me personally, like I, I follow Joe Lustica. He's a, uh, he's another guy, a lot like me, but he studies a lot of case law and he's, you know, he, he likes to intertwine and, and, and root through all the case law and stuff like that. And he's an, he's an excellent educational source. He's got his own, he's got his own class on, um, he's got his own like, uh, monetized school on site. Like he's got courses that he sells courses. Oh, cool.

[00:30:00] I think he's, I think he's like $50 a month for free, you know, for full access. Nice. So like for 50 bucks a month, you could just, you could just like, you know, barrel through his courses and get a lot of education, but he, but he, he reads a lot of case law and that's kind of where he and I differ. I mean, yeah, I understand that the details of the case law are important, but I also understand that case law is just an opinion and it really doesn't have any weight against our rights as people. Right.

[00:30:29] Um, but again, he's of a different opinion. He's of a different knowledge and that's fine, but I still support him. Like I, I have a link to his school on my link tree. Right. And I don't get any kickback from that. I did that just out of sheer support for my brother in the same fight. We're in the trenches together. I'm going to support him. I'm going to direct people to him who want to learn more. Right. You know what I mean? So I'm, I'm doing that just because.

[00:30:58] And people like knowing what somebody looks like. I mean, they, they, I mean, that's, that's part of it. You know, they, they, they like that human connection and everything for me. Honestly, it was just, uh, ridding myself of a lot of features of, of the publication of content that I didn't want to deal with. I'm going to be honest. I get that too. And that being able to sit in your pajamas too and not put on a face for the day is great. You know? Yeah. Cause I struggled with that a couple of times too.

[00:31:27] Like I came home from work and I had to change my shirt because I didn't want my logo on screen because, you know, that could lead to a lot, a lot of problems for me. Because if somebody doesn't like the opinion that I carry, they're going to turn around and they're going to call my work. And, you know, now I got to figure out how to pay my bills. Yeah. It's like, it could still happen, but you know, um, but it'll take a while. Like that out there, you know, take a while, but then you'll, you'll understand more about where you work too, which will be, um, a blessing, uh, in a big way.

[00:31:57] Um, and, and, you know, you keep praying about it. Yeah. You're not wrong at all. But I, yeah, I just, I, I, I figure I'd rather not invoke that kind of response early on. I would just, you know, create the better, create the proper routine that protects me more than hurts me. So. I, I, I mean, I don't know. I can't see that happening, um, to you right away. Cause you're classy.

[00:32:27] You keep it classy and respectful. So. Yeah. You do, you do well. You do well. I mean, you can get a little hood if you want, but you know, it's not normally my, not normally my MO. It's like you said, you only do that if you got to, you know, you do that when you, when it's red, when it's time. That's right. That's good. One of my, one of the things that I've seen that float around the internet that I like so much is, uh, uh, a little bit, a little bit of heaven, a little bit of hood play with me, but don't pray or pray with me. Don't play with me. Yes. Yes.

[00:32:57] I love it. I love it. Well, John, um, I have, I guess two last things. Um, I guess one of most importantly is as of right now, what are best ways for people to reach out to you and start talking to you, engaging. And maybe if they want to meet up with you and, you know, you don't have to rely on me. Maybe they want to interview. Maybe they want to talk to you and do this. Well, and that's, yeah, that's awesome.

[00:33:25] That's a great question because I have, I have reached out to a couple of other friends that are like-minded and of the same social circles. I sound really loud in my ears right now. Um, but, uh, I, I guess like, well, I guess the best, uh, the best way to reach me, I guess would be Facebook right now.

[00:33:49] Um, and I do believe you are friends with both profiles, my personal and my Cavalier profile. Um, so, uh, if you want to share that on your end, uh, for your listeners that you're welcome to do this. They can get ahold of me on both sides. Um, I admittedly, I haven't spent a lot of time on the Cavalier profile because it's linked to my, my regular Facebook.

[00:34:16] Um, I didn't develop an entirely separate Facebook. I should have, but I didn't. Um, but Facebook is my main, that's my main go-to right now. Um, I do have, I do have profiles set up on YouTube. There's nothing published there yet. I have profile on rumble. There's nothing published there yet. I do have a telegram. All there, all introduction message. There's nothing else there.

[00:34:44] Um, and then my Facebook and my Instagram. Uh, the Instagram is mostly of the car of some repairs and stuff that I've done. Some of the stickers and stuff like that. Um, and then some political quotes, uh, founders quotes, stuff like that. Um, I really have not given it a lot of dedication because I just haven't been doing anything. Oh, that's okay. That's more so just how the people can reach out. Like, um, yeah.

[00:35:12] But, uh, if you, if you're going to reach out to me, a guaranteed connection is going to be through my personal Facebook. Okay. So, and you're welcome to share that if you want. Um, and, uh, cause I don't know if I'm searchable, but I, but my, my profile is public. I'm fully public. Um, so you can get ahold of me there. Um, you can message me at the Cavalier Facebook page also, but I may not get the messages

[00:35:37] because the phone trips up switching messengers between one profile to the next. Yeah. So probably the best way to get ahold of me is on the personal Facebook page. Okay. So, um, that's a good, that's a good thing. And, you know, just so that you feel okay. I, I do think that that's better to, um, build it this way because if it's the other way, kind of like I did, you're, you're buying all the business cards and stuff when you don't even have any business yet. Like, you know, like you're kind of, you know what I mean?

[00:36:07] Like you're getting all the office supplies and no office. So at least you're, you're doing it the right way. Right. And what I've noticed too, is that I can, um, I can actually share the Cavalier profile on my own profile. So like I can piggyback. So like when I do, when I do make, uh, posts and things that I think are noteworthy on the Cavaliers page, I'll share them through my personal so that it reaches a wider audience.

[00:36:37] Um, and, uh, so yeah. Um, so that, that, that works too. So it, it draws more people in. Don't have a lot of followers on the constitution on the Cavaliers Facebook yet, but I, I'm pretty sure you're on there and a good number of others are on there. So, you know, once it starts to pick up, I'm sure I'll start getting shares and stuff like that. And, uh, that'll help, you know, get the message out.

[00:37:04] I mean, I feel like the stories that you've shared already should very much so prick people's interests. Like you, like I have video footage of, um, of Eddie, well, not edited necessarily, but videos that like the, the body cam footage have the body cam footage from the discussions that I had with the bailiffs and the police officers.

[00:37:30] And then I actually have some covert, uh, recordings that I took with my phone, um, against courthouse policy, but you know, Hey, first amendment. So it was in a public area. It wasn't in the courtroom. Yeah. Um, I also have courtroom footage. Sorry, but, um, yeah. Well, as long as, you know, that's what it's being used for. It's whatever. When it's, it's, it's audio mostly.

[00:37:58] I mean, the video's on, but like, if there's video, you're, you're like looking at the table or you're looking at the ceiling. Right. Right. But, uh, but the audio is there. Um, but I have like the body cam footage I went through on my old computer. There was a way for me to go through and like edit and put like text on the screen. This was before AI and all that stuff, because this has been like four years ago now.

[00:38:22] Well, when the, when I was going through the, the, the, the court cases and the suits, but, um, I have three major videos that I went through and I edited with onscreen text and notations and stuff of my experience at the courthouse. And with the, with the sheriff's deputy that I interacted with and the, and the things that the, that the bailiffs told the sheriff's deputy and all that. And it's all cited.

[00:38:50] It's, it's got citations with constitution, Maryland constitution citations, and all of the little notes and kind of like little, little injections that I interjections that I wanted to put in. And I, I've only showed them to a few people. I've kept them under lock and key because I was, uh, at first I was afraid that, that the, the local government would, would retaliate. Um, because the, uh, the bailiff, the major, the main bailiff that I had an interaction with

[00:39:19] is a retired state trooper for state of Maryland. And, um, he's actually known to our mutual brother, um, that goes to church with us. And, um, there's, uh, what was I getting at? But yeah, I was, I was afraid of retaliation because of the footage that I had gotten, uh, both from body cam and from the personal footage that I took with my cell phone.

[00:39:45] Um, because, uh, I was technically, I was recording technically where I shouldn't be in the courtroom, but again, policy doesn't override first amendment privilege or first amendment. So, um, doesn't mean they can't make us think about it. And exactly. That's what you were trying to be cautious about, but now here we are like four years later, you know, um, and back to the original point, I kept the videos under lock and key,

[00:40:14] but I shared them with a couple of friends privately. Um, because they're downloaded, they're on rumble, but they're, they're not searchable. So, um, but I had shared them with a couple of friends and I would, I have gotten incredible feedback from them regarding, oh man, yeah, you, you got to share this. This has got to be like the intro for your channel because it's going to really draw people in. And they're going to be like, oh man, this guy's, you know, he's, he doesn't, he doesn't just talk the talk. He walks the walk and he's doing it. Right.

[00:40:43] You know, um, it's been, it's been really supportive feedback. So that's great. I guess that's probably going to be one of the first things I do is just, you know, drop the bombs and then let the collateral damage handle itself and, uh, see where it goes from there, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, uh, in a lot of ways, I think you might just end up wrestling with other people's external problems if they hear this and they're like, wow, I wonder, you know,

[00:41:10] given what I'm going through right now, what you would have to say about this. And, you know, who knows you make a proviso saying like, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not these things. Like these, this is my opinion, you know, legal advice, save yourself from that hassle, but like to apply the constitution to it, as you understand it and show them, uh, that I, I think that that might be something that you encounter, um, moving ahead as like people

[00:41:38] contacting you and saying like, this is my situation. Like, what do you think? Um, or this is happening, you know, what would you do? You know, kind of thing. Um, it might be really interesting, like, uh, you know, how they have the, the, the lady that gives all the dating advice in the, you know, on the columns and stuff. Like, well, what would you do if you, this guy came to you and he was saying these things

[00:42:03] and, you know, you give this, you know, just that little, like, nod, like, this is my perspective about it. Or, uh, am I the asshole on Reddit and things like that? This is the situation. Am I the asshole? Um, you know, that kind of thing. But yeah. I do enjoy that kind of, I do enjoy that kind of content. Um, there's a, there's that guy that does the, uh, he does the reviews on the police videos and stuff. Uh, here's the deal. I don't know if he is, but, uh, I, I like a lot of his videos.

[00:42:32] He's got a, his commentary and his, uh, his energy is very like-minded for mine. Uh, sarcastic, facetious, you know, making underhanded comments and digs and all this and that. And the other, I, I like the energy. Um, and I had thought about doing stitch videos also just for the sake of it, because, you know, it kind of falls in line with backtalk and, you know, invoking thought about, oh, well, yeah, he's got a point.

[00:43:01] You know, maybe if it had gone this way or this person had done something differently, you know, the outcome could have been different, you know, which is that that's me all the time watching police videos on, on reels and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, you know, if you hadn't done this, this way, maybe so-and-so would have been a little bit more receptive to your position. Yes. You know? Yeah. And then, and then you've got the other ones that are just, uh, blatant, just complete disregard for people's sovereignty. And, you know, yeah.

[00:43:31] Cops hopping and it's just like, yeah, some of it's sickly. Some of it is kind of plausible. And then some of it's really nice. You know, I just wish there was more really nice than the opposite. Oh, wouldn't we all, wouldn't we all? I mean, I can see, I can see what you're doing as you put out, like there's the grand vision and there's lots of little things that you can do that stay with an alignment to the ultimate thing. What do you think? This is my last thing.

[00:44:00] What do you think now that we know how to contact you? What do you think you're going to do next? Like, obviously I can meet with you, but I, what do you think that you're going to record first now that we've talked and everything? Do you think you're going to do your reads? I think they would be nice if you just. Yeah. I think I'm going to stick with the original plan. Duh. I might drop my, my, my saved videos that I have from my interactions with the, with local

[00:44:29] government. I think I might drop those videos kind of like a. Like the initial egg splat. Mm-hmm. Kind of get the thing stirring up and then stick to my original plan. I'll do my readings. And then maybe just to continue to get my feet wet in a more calm and less, less, you know, chaos manner. I'll stick to things that I can put my hands on, you know, do my readings.

[00:44:59] You, you know, you've got the constitution declaration of independence, uh, bill of rights, and then I can go back and I can kind of like expound on certain sections of the constitution. You know, we'll talk about delegated powers, stuff like that, but bring more clarity to what the restricted powers are of the federal government and how that transfers over to the state and, you know, where the state can kind of get away with certain things, but the state can't

[00:45:25] violate any provision of the constitution and it can't overtake or regulate anything that was delegated to the federal government, which it actually, the states do, and they're not supposed to. Right. Um, and then, um, you know, and then again, my forte, if I, if I dare get ahead of myself going into the bill of rights, um, and, uh, what's the, I can't, I can't, I can't,

[00:45:55] I can't think of the word now and just, um, deep, not decomposing, deconstructing, deconstructing, deconstructing each of your rights, um, and how they apply in your practical day to day, uh, stuff like that. Um, and then of course, what the, what, how the rights, how they read and what they mean in their written sense. And then, you know, again, like I said, how they apply to your practical every day to

[00:46:22] day and what the, what the historical rules were, you know, for instance, your first amendment to free speech. Right. Um, free speech does actually have limits historically. It had, it had limits to, um, you know, uh, threats and, uh, what they called in the older days, uh, fighting words, uh, words that you could use that you, that were common knowledge among the, among the people that would invoke, uh, a physical or emotional response.

[00:46:52] You know what I mean? And you and I, we, we, we grew up in the nineties, you know, your mom, you looked at somebody and was like, yeah, your mom, you know, you were going to get busted in the mouth. Um, so maybe, yeah, it depends on who, but you know, and that's just a, that's just a silly example of fighting words, if you will. Um, if I'm, if I'm just throwing it off the cuff, but, uh, you know, stuff like that. So I think I might stay, I might stay within a little bit of a safe bubble just to get my

[00:47:22] feet good and soaked, you know? And then, um, uh, I, I have some work to do when it comes to learning how to like do like stitch videos and stuff like that. I'm really not well-versed in like the own editing. Um, I have a TikTok that I plan on flipping from my personal TikTok to podcast TikTok, but, um, I'm not real versed in the editing tools.

[00:47:51] Um, you know, thank goodness for teenage daughters. Yeah, there you go. That's great. I was going to say, I can't help you either. Like, I don't, I don't even have a TikTok. Yeah, I think, I think I might invoke the, uh, the youngest daughter in helping me maybe edit videos. You should have, have you seen the movie chef? Chef. I have not seen chef. Oh, you should, you should, you'll, you'll, you'll get why I, I recommend it. It's really good. Um, Jonathan Pavro.

[00:48:19] I think that is it Favro, Jonathan Favro. I think that's his name. Um, I think that's his name. It's a newer movie. Yeah. Relatively. I, it, it's a few years old now. It's really, really good. Um, is it Jonathan? I think I'm getting his whole name wrong, but, um, it's got a pretty all-star cast. And, um, I think, I think you'll really, it's just, it's a beautiful film.

[00:48:45] It's really, really heartwarming, but it, it, you'll see why, um, based off of what you just said, why I recommended it. It's good. Um, yeah. The genre, the rom-com or, or, um, no, it's not a rom-com. Um, no, it's, um, it's a, uh, how, how would I, what would be the genre? Um, it has fun moments.

[00:49:13] Like a professional hockey series, like in the world of a chef. Um, okay. So for anybody that hasn't watched it, I'm going to give a pre, a brief rundown for you so that you kind of know. So chef it's about a chef and he is, you know, an artist and he works for, um, um, a restaurant, but, you know, he's a creative and he's trying to make really good creative moves, but he's

[00:49:40] dealing with, you know, a, a restaurant tour, a businessman who doesn't want to take a lot of risks, but he's, you know, he's a creative. So he wants, he wants that he wants to push it. And, um, you know, there's backgrounds of him. He has, um, a marriage that fell apart. He's divorced and he has a young son. Uh, so there's a generational element of this too, where he's wrestling with being as good as he can be as a professional and artist being a good dad.

[00:50:09] Um, and also obviously, you know, failing at his marriage and, and trying, trying to have all these things and connect them and, and be a good, good person amongst all of them. And the story follows that that's where you start out with him. So the rest of it takes fire and I'm not going to blow it for you, but I don't know, but it sounds like it's hitting home. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're going to love it. It's good. It's you got to watch it. It's really good. It's funny.

[00:50:38] Cause I think, uh, yeah, the wife just told me she had a, I guess some, our most recent Amazon purchase got us like a $5 movie credit. So if it's, if it's, if it's on prime, I got a $5 coupon. There you go. I love it already. That's awesome. And it's a good movie that your wife, I think will enjoy as well. Yeah. A lot. So it's not neither male or female. It's really good. Um, we, we, we, we normally jive on movies and stuff. So that's good. Fantastic.

[00:51:06] Is there a, um, I, I know that I said that it was the last question, but, um, please. I am loving this. I really am. Do you, do you have a frequency that you want to try to hit? Like just, just starting out like once a week, um, what day a week? Is there anything that. With my current, with my current professional life, I work five days a week. I'm on a rotating on call schedule.

[00:51:34] And I, I, I've been kind of in unofficially promising myself that I was going to try to make church more often. So I've only got really one day. Um, and then you, you, you tie in that one day and then you, and then you, uh, you complicate it further with, uh, having a mother-in-law that lives within 20 minutes. So, yeah, I'm, I'm the, I'm the fix it. Son-in-law.

[00:52:01] So no, I was learning that last time on door and, um, and some other things that she needs done around the house. So it's like, I, I, I barely have any time as it goes, but I would like to, I would like to hit maybe a bi-weekly to weekly. And, you know, if, if I'm giving an inside scoop to the thought process, I understand

[00:52:29] and you understand just by simply anybody who has sat down and taken the time to watch this knows that you can get a lot done in one sitting and then chop it up into a couple little tiny snippets and still just share the link to the big, to the big show. Yes. So, you know, if that's, if that's, you know, I don't know if that's a, if that's a method of yours or not. Um, but it's definitely a method that I have considered using because if I can sit down

[00:52:59] and I can cover a multitude of topics in a matter of maybe an hour or two. And like I had told you earlier, part of, you know, part of my, one of the characteristics of my channel is that I, or podcast is that I want it to be raw and uncut and kind of focus in on that recommendation that you made about organic content, you know, listening to me mumble over my thoughts and build from the foundation, a starting point to a finishing point and understanding how I got there. It's pretty critical for my audience.

[00:53:29] Um, I think so, uh, so that's going to be a thing for me, but you know, like if I'm covering the bill of rights in one sitting and I'm talking for three hours, I can go back and I can snip that out to each individual delegated, right. Yep. And I can make 10 little snippet episodes out of that. Absolutely. So, you know, and then I can just, you know, in my comments or whatever in the links or

[00:53:57] in the description, you know, however they say it, these content creators that are well seasoned, uh, you know, link down in the comments. Oh, yeah. Uh, and then that link takes you to the full, you know, one or two hour unedited, raw and uncut me talking through every single app, you know, uh, adage of the bill of rights or whatever section, like maybe I talked about section one of the constitution, or I talked about, you

[00:54:26] know, the, the first couple paragraphs of the declaration of, of independence, you know, and then I got, and then another episode might be all of the listy things that, you know, that the King had done in the declaration of independence that's listed. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that, that's probably going to be my, that'll probably be my attack plan for me

[00:54:48] to sit down and do a large recording and then snippet it and make a multitude of releases. So I can, in theory, I would be able to meet like a weekly goal of like one or two videos a week. If I'm doing, you know, large cuts and then doing little snippet releases of, of the large cut. Absolutely. Um, I kind of do that, kind of not do that.

[00:55:17] I mean, this, this is a passion project. I don't, I don't make any money. I don't do it. I've, I, it's been just seven years of me doing it. Um, just because, um, it could have been a business had I been more savvy about it, but I'm, I haven't, I just have done it. Um, my whole thing is, you know, like if it's over an hour and a half, I know that's a hard thing for people to kind of see their way through. You can kind of give something an hour and a half, but it's a little hard to find more

[00:55:46] than that. So if it goes into like a three hour thing, I usually break it up into two episodes. Um, I don't limit the time that any of us talk, but I do like it to be, you know, a nice juicy bit hour, hour and a half. Uh, if it's three hours, maybe like three episodes of three hours, um, or, you know, an hour piece. And then I release them, you know, once a week, um, just so that people can, you know, digest at least something once a week.

[00:56:13] Um, that's the prevalency that I've been able to actually do, but you're right. You can take, you can take all of those things and you have a video as well now and just spice it up. I'm going to share with you once we get off here, all of the things that we've recorded, it records a video, it records the audio, um, both I think connected and individual. So you have both, so you can, yeah.

[00:56:38] And then you can, you can make your own cuts and hopefully you can, um, use this, uh, to your benefit as well. You've already isolated a lot of the plan and a foundational kind of presence, uh, to everything. And, and, you know, whatever I do on my side is just going to be an added thing to kind of steer people over to you. So I think that's, you know, that's going to be awesome.

[00:57:02] I would just like to know if, if you want somebody to read to or at, I have no problem with sitting here. If you, if you wanted to like do this, it's fine. If it made it easy, um, I I'm, I'm welcome to, you might, your wife might be able to be roped in and just sit, uh, you know, on the other side of you and you read to her. Um, that's been discussed also. That's been discussed also.

[00:57:30] Um, it, it, it can go both ways. I'm, I'm open to either side. Um, I, you know, as I've said plenty of times, I absolutely love chatting with you. Um, we've always had fun with our talks and, uh, I've, and again, that was, that's kind of been one of the hurdles is I've asked my wife to come in here and just sit with me so that I could kind of, you know, kind of get my, get my nerves in order and just, boom, and just, you know, go for it.

[00:57:57] And, uh, and we always get caught up with other things, you know, something happens, whatever, you know, the, the, the variables are endless when it comes to married and family life. Oh, but you know, that again, that's been one of the hangups is trying to drag the wife in here because I didn't know if it was appropriate for her to just be off camera and still be able to talk because I have a mic. I don't have to use the camera. Are you done?

[00:58:26] Probably not. But, um, um, so I didn't, cause she's camera shy. Uh, she's not ready to be on camera. So I told her, I was like, okay, well, we don't have to do the camera, but you can just be on the microphone so that I can hear you in my ears and, you know, it makes sure that the conversation carries. Uh, but, uh, we've just, we, we haven't had the time and we all were constantly getting distracted and pulled away.

[00:58:55] And that's, again, that's just been one of the things that I've been wrestling with, but I absolutely love the fact that you're willing that you're volunteering. Um, it's, it's definitely beneficial to have someone like yourself that's already knowledgeable and not a complete noob to, to the converse, to the, to the constitutional discussion. So you could actually come up with, uh, you would actually probably come up with, um, more

[00:59:22] focused questions that would be, you know, that would challenge me more and given me more of a difficulty to answer where my wife would probably come up with more simplified questions that would be easier for me to answer. But at the same time, both of those question patterns have value. So, you know, I'm giving me a lot of credit. No, I'll give you all the credit that you do me and a little bit extra just because I

[00:59:46] love you, but, um, you know, stuff like that, you know, both sides are valuable and I want to, I don't want to isolate anybody in the audience that feels like, oh, I'm not smart enough to learn this because believe it or not, constitution and law is a lot easier than people realize. Um, it, it's overcomplicated by the complexity that government creates. Yeah.

[01:00:13] Um, so, you know, well, all of the things that you knew were right as a child, all of the basic morals that you knew were right and wrong, that's basically where it comes from. And as long as you can build on that a little bit as a grownup should, you pretty much got it, you know? And it's, uh, again, it's just putting it into practical use and being able to exercise the appropriate discipline to, you know, rightly.

[01:00:41] I'm the person to give you permission to do a lot of the things that maybe you shouldn't ought to do, but that I've, I, I absorb a lot of content and I can already tell you that there's a couple that I follow where the woman is on camera in the couple, but the man is never seen. If he's seen he, there's this, um, there's this emoji over his face or like his face is altered in a way that you never know what he looks like. And I don't know what kind of job he has, but it's probably a job where he cannot be seen,

[01:01:11] but all you do is hear him talking and interacting and their relationship is hilarious and awesome. And it's like one of my favorites to listen to and you never see him. And it's, it's, it seems to be an agreed upon thing. So it's already out there and people are fine with it. Uh, so just let your wife know. Yeah, that could be something then. Yeah, definitely.

[01:01:37] Um, you mentioned that couple and I, I meant, I immediately think of, uh, I don't know if you've come across her or not, but I, I think she's hilarious. Um, cause I think it's Becky B social or something pretty lady with glasses and she's got this dirty minded husband. I think they live in Florida because she's always out on her pool deck and they've got the screened in pool deck. So I assume it's Florida, but she always makes these, she'll, she'll make these silly little, like, uh, like innuendo jokes or whatever.

[01:02:07] And then the camera slightly turns, you know, and, and there's the husband and he's like, oh yeah, this, this, and that. And he doubles down on the dirty joke. And it's just like, oh my God, you guys are putting this out on the internet. People's children are watching this, but it's not filthy. No. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's intuitive. It's, it's inferred and it's like, yeah, you're just barely scraping that line, but you're keeping it where it needs to be.

[01:02:32] Oh, I'm sure there's many, many, many levels of how bad that our kids are exposed to. But at the same time, you can tell that their marriage is absolutely solid because they have humor, they have love, they have everything that they clearly need. Um, but, uh, but yeah, it's just that those two are quite the character. That sounds kind of like what you're talking about. Yeah. Except the husband is visible. You can see him. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just as quirky as she is.

[01:03:02] So it's like, oh my gosh. This is hilarious. Cause they, she'll, she'll ask him something and he just, he pushes back at her in the most hilarious ways. Yeah. Like it's, it's hard to, to give an example, but, um, he just calls her out on so much that's ridiculous. Like she'll, she'll be wearing an outfit like out in the snow. And he's like, what are you doing? Like, what is this? Look at my wife right now. Look at this. What are you Instagramming? You're making content.

[01:03:31] You're freezing your ass off. Like get in here. What is this? You didn't even wear socks. What is this? That's not even a sock that you're wearing. That's not that, that it's just a leg. It's like a leg. I don't, I don't even know what that is. What is that? Like, you're just constantly badgering her. She's losing it, man. And it was so funny. You know, your, your wife might be on the background, just like giving you a whole bunch of crap.

[01:04:00] Dude, that would make it super fun. Like her, like that's, that's something she would do. The problem is, is I have to keep her in a properly rated segment. Like, because she'll, she'll go off the far side. I know my wife and she'll, she'll take it to where it should have never gone. And well, you can, you can have a swear cup. You can have a, you can have a whole thing and be like, okay, now you owe me money and just sit it there and be like, put it. I put it. So the audience can see, and all they see is their hand, like putting money in the.

[01:04:28] There's no, because I'm just going to spend the money on her anyway. It's like, I'm just going to have a budget to blow. She's got something she wants. She's just going to, you know, F-bomb, F-bomb, F-bomb. Hey man. I mean, I mean, you could, you, once you get your, your board up and running, you just, you probably will be able to recognize her cadence. You're like, it's coming. Bing. Yep. That's it. Well, awesome, John.

[01:04:57] I have loved this. I am, I am volunteering at trip as tribute. So if you wanted to do this again, I'm totally down. Even if it's just to be here as like somebody that you talk to just to have like a person to acknowledge so that it's not weird. I'm down. But thank you so much for this and the willingness. I thank you because already this has been amazing. And I know that it's going to be, you know, I haven't recorded in a while.

[01:05:23] So I've been parking it for a minute just because I have this whole studio that I'm building. So life does get in the way. There are a lot of things that you have to get to first and it's a hard build. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, I'm looking to do my own creative and educational venture in some way and host people in that way and move it into a physical space. Um, but it's been a lot and I haven't been able to record. So this has been wonderful.

[01:05:50] I have, um, thoroughly enjoyed it and it was a nice way to get back to it because I I've missed it quite frankly. It seems like this has been mutually beneficial then. Heck yeah, man. Heck yeah. Well, I don't, I don't want to keep you too much longer and this has been awesome, but, um, yeah. Do you have any closing things you want to say? Um, I usually let you guys, um, name the podcast too. So you can always hit me up on the backend if you have any ideas about what you'd want to call this.

[01:06:19] Um, cause I do like titles, but do you have any words of wisdom or things that you want to leave the audience with as you, as we sign off? Uh, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of lost. I mean, there's a, there's a hard connection between the Bible and our founding documents of our country. And regardless of what anybody says,

[01:06:48] the moral standard of our society is based in biblical principle. You can be an atheist all you want, but the bottom line is, is that the standard of good and bad comes from God. Hallelujah. Amen. That was, that was chef's kiss. Thanks. That's pretty awesome. Nails it on the first try. You did. You did. This is amazing.

[01:07:17] Well, I, I hope you have a great night. Let's definitely do this again. And I'll leave you to your, to your family. Everyone. That's our time for now with John, John Lee. Uh, look out for him. As you can tell, he's getting started. I, uh, always like to encourage, you know, fresh passion and someone who is energized about doing something.

[01:07:46] And, uh, I, I, I'd like to think that, uh, well, if nothing more, I like to always be the kind of person that likes to plant a seed and see what grows. So, you know, with, with John, he had a want to do this, uh, to, to comment on certain topics. He's got, you know, life experience that he can offer.

[01:08:10] And, um, you know, with, with all the provisos of like, you know, he's not a lawyer, but, you know, he could really inform some people and point you in the right direction. If you find yourself in similar situations like he has been in and, uh, you know, life keeps going, uh, if we're lucky. So there's going to be more ahead, uh, and more need to start fires. Fires are very, very helpful.

[01:08:37] It's one of the, uh, the wonderful things that, that uplifted us from our stone age or, or whatnot. Uh, it, it elevated us, uh, some cultures call it a gift from the gods. So, uh, being that we are, you know, under the God, uh, we, we think of it truly as a gift. I mean, this whole life is, um, and so have all of you been, uh, I really appreciate each of you.

[01:09:04] I want to thank John again, uh, for this awesome time. Like I said at the top, it really helped me get back into recording. I have to say it's, it's been a, it's been hard because this, this stuff, when you, when you do it all yourself, the time that it takes is ginormous. Um, but it's not impossible if you focus and you do it.

[01:09:31] I have liked doing it this time. It's just, uh, it's, it's, it's a thing that I'm going to have to figure out how to manage, uh, all of the juggling. But, um, you know, just to, as John listens to this, you know, know that it's, I hear all your reasons for why it's, it's a hard thing to get off the ground. And our listeners definitely understand what it is to pursue passion and just the knocks that you get along the way.

[01:10:01] And even when you're succeeding, just the, the levels of imposter syndrome, the levels of, you know, overthinking and worrying and, and meeting deadlines. I mean, it's all, it's all there and it taxes us and it pushes us, but it's good. So I hope that this podcast, uh, started some fires, uh, within each of you.

[01:10:25] And I hope that you continue to cultivate and feed your fires as you move along into the future. I love each of you and I pray for all of us. Uh, may we all rise together. God bless and have a powerful week. Later. Thanks for listening. You can find the apprenticeship diaries on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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